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    Player dice137's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adormus View Post
    "New and refreshing"? So if I stick horns to an iPhone, I have a new and refreshing product, everyone will crave for? I really fail to see anything new about yet another human race with tiny gimmicks. Nor do I feel anything refreshing about it.

    ANY race they could've added wouldn't have been new or refreshing, honestly. Name any race you want from the entire FF franchise, and I can find it somewhere else. Guaranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dice137 View Post
    ANY race they could've added wouldn't have been new or refreshing, honestly. Name any race you want from the entire FF franchise, and I can find it somewhere else. Guaranteed.
    Wait, you want me to name you an already used race, so you can prove to me that it has indeed already been used? I wouldn't have minded the Au Ra one bit, if they were _actual_ draconic humans. But they're just humans with horns. SE is just being lazy here, because they want to keep their "One size fits it all"-policy. Otherwise they would have to create seperate models for other races.

    Quote Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart View Post
    A video game is the artistic expression of its creators, whether they be writers or artists.

    It is not about what you want, it is about an experience they want to share with us.
    Absolutely not. As mentioned before, they chose Au Ra in their current form to save ressources. Not to impress us with the incredible pointiness of their horns.
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    Player dice137's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adormus View Post
    Wait, you want me to name you an already used race, so you can prove to me that it has indeed already been used? I wouldn't have minded the Au Ra one bit, if they were _actual_ draconic humans. But they're just humans with horns. SE is just being lazy here, because they want to keep their "One size fits it all"-policy. Otherwise they would have to create seperate models for other races.
    I never said I wanted you to do anything, let alone did I say I wanted to prove anything to you or anyone else. My point was that no race that they could've added would be original enough to satiate most people's palettes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well thats kind of strange.. as of 100% of the jobs we have in the game we already had in FFXI..

    FF jobs are traditional.
    I meant redundant in terms of jobs we already have in 14, not across games or whatever? SMN already fills the role of pet-commanding DPS. We don't need another any time soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dice137 View Post
    SMN already fills the role of pet-commanding DPS. We don't need another any time soon.
    We have;
    BLM, Magic based DPS focused on single hit blasts.
    SMN, Magic based DPS focused on DoTs and Pet damage.
    BRD, Physical DPS that dabbles in support skills.

    Now we have the Machinist, a second Physical Ranged DPS, but also with pets.

    So we're going to have 1 of each type of DPS in both categories (Pet vs no Pet)

    PLD/WAR/DRK
    WHM/SCH/AST
    NIN/DRG/MNK
    BRD/MCH
    SMN/BLM

    Thats what our Job role list breakdowns is going to look like, and it looks fine. Had we gotten another magical DPS instead of Machinist, it'd put the BRD further into its currently unique position of ranged physical while bloating out the Magical DPS.
    You could argue the NIN bloated the melee DPS, but it really doesn't since the NIN slots very neatly in between the DRG style and MNK style of DPS.
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    Player dice137's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
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    I didn't say we don't need another DPS, I just said we didn't need another class that revolves around pets. They can just do another caster DPS without a pet gimmick. Between ACN, SMN, and SCH, I just think we can have a break from the whole caster + pet AI thing for a while. It's fine if they introduce something later, but we don't need it right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dice137 View Post
    I never said I wanted you to do anything, let alone did I say I wanted to prove anything to you or anyone else. My point was that no race that they could've added would be original enough to satiate most people's palettes.



    I meant redundant in terms of jobs we already have in 14, not across games or whatever? SMN already fills the role of pet-commanding DPS. We don't need another any time soon.
    But Summoner sucks at the pet-commanding role
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    But Summoner sucks at the pet-commanding role
    If that's the case, then they should fix what sucks about it, not just sweep it under the rug and add a new pet-commanding DPS class to try and cover it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adormus View Post
    Absolutely not. As mentioned before, they chose Au Ra in their current form to save ressources. Not to impress us with the incredible pointiness of their horns.
    yeah, nobody cares about your conspiracies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart View Post
    yeah, nobody cares about your conspiracies.
    You should be awarded the "Perfect Customer Star 2014". Have fun with your rose tinted goggles. Artistic vision..female Au Ra...laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adormus View Post
    You should be awarded the "Perfect Customer Star 2014". Have fun with your rose tinted goggles. Artistic vision..female Au Ra...laughable.
    Leonhart is right. No one cares at all.
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