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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Remove job change cooldowns from all jobs and just keep it so jobs cannot be switched in instanced content or during combat.
    And there is no reason this can't be done. They said in the live letter the reason for this is to prevent people from resetting their cooldowns, but the servers keep track of your cooldowns even if they don't belong to your active job anymore. Activate a CD on job 1 in housing ward/city, change to job 2 and change back, you'll see the ability is still on CD, so their reason behind this is false.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    And there is no reason this can't be done. They said in the live letter the reason for this is to prevent people from resetting their cooldowns, but the servers keep track of your cooldowns even if they don't belong to your active job anymore. Activate a CD on job 1 in housing ward/city, change to job 2 and change back, you'll see the ability is still on CD, so their reason behind this is false.
    I think what they meant is so you cant use all of your abilities on 1 job, switch, and then you have all the abilities for that job up and ready to go immediately.

    Like hallowed ground for instance, and benediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I think what they meant is so you cant use all of your abilities on 1 job, switch, and then you have all the abilities for that job up and ready to go immediately.

    Like hallowed ground for instance, and benediction.
    Well that's not possible anyway as you can't change jobs mid-combat or during instanced content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Well that's not possible anyway as you can't change jobs mid-combat or during instanced content.
    Right, but thats what would happen if they let you switch and everything was ready to go.

    As it is, all weapon skills only take 30 seconds to go off CD.

    For instance, you get real low hp wise on PLD and pop Hallowed Ground. After the mob dies, your hp is still low, but you need to have full hp to continue w/e it was you are doing. So while still out of combat, you switch to WHM, pop Benediction, then switch back to PLD and continue on your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Right, but thats what would happen if they let you switch and everything was ready to go.

    As it is, all weapon skills only take 30 seconds to go off CD.

    For instance, you get real low hp wise on PLD and pop Hallowed Ground. After the mob dies, your hp is still low, but you need to have full hp to continue w/e it was you are doing. So while still out of combat, you switch to WHM, pop Benediction, then switch back to PLD and continue on your way.
    Would that be really that horrible? I mean, it saves you like...15 seconds of waiting. Sorry, but I can't see this argument proving anything. As you said: "It's only 15 seconds anyway"
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    Belcross Panda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    And there is no reason this can't be done. They said in the live letter the reason for this is to prevent people from resetting their cooldowns, but the servers keep track of your cooldowns even if they don't belong to your active job anymore. Activate a CD on job 1 in housing ward/city, change to job 2 and change back, you'll see the ability is still on CD, so their reason behind this is false.
    On the current skill sets, there may not be too big of an issue but it maybe an issue with skills yet to come with classes that have yet to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adormus View Post
    Would that be really that horrible? I mean, it saves you like...15 seconds of waiting. Sorry, but I can't see this argument proving anything. As you said: "It's only 15 seconds anyway"
    No, I'm not talking about weaponskills, I'm talking abilities.

    You could burn through all your CD's on BRD, switch to DRG, burn those, switch again, burn those.

    Its easily exploitable, which is why they don't have this option in the first place.

    And sure, it doesn't work in instances or combat, but still.

    No reason to change what we have now outside of allowed for camps to act like cities do and allow free changing.
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No, I'm not talking about weaponskills, I'm talking abilities.

    You could burn through all your CD's on BRD, switch to DRG, burn those, switch again, burn those.

    Its easily exploitable, which is why they don't have this option in the first place.
    It's... really not exploitable. The abilities we get are hardly overpowered, and abilities which are cross-class are also kept on the same timer so you can't use Blood for Blood on CC and then swap to Dragoon and use it fully. It simply won't work that way. Besides which, each job has their own specialty so it's not like you're suddenly the worlds greatest DPS because you used Dragon Dive on Dragoon and swapped to Monk for a totally different fight. Nor would you be the 'worlds greatest paladin' by swapping to White Mage between fights to top up HP... since swapping back would mean you'd have the WHM's HP max not a Paladins.

    It's a silly argument, and a silly rule.
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I think what they meant is so you cant use all of your abilities on 1 job, switch, and then you have all the abilities for that job up and ready to go immediately.

    Like hallowed ground for instance, and benediction.
    This doesn't work already. Any buffs you have, such as hallowed ground or benediction (but more commonly protect), are removed when you switch jobs.
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