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  1. #21
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    Hyunckel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    A player can send any amount of gil he/she chooses to anyone for any reason so yes this would be allowed.

    What ISNT allowed in regards to the TOS is to demand real life money for ingame services regardless what they are.
    ^ This.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    A player can send any amount of gil he/she chooses to anyone for any reason so yes this would be allowed.

    What ISNT allowed in regards to the TOS is to demand real life money for ingame services regardless what they are.
    So the Artist would be ok because they aren't offering "any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items."

    However the person purchasing the Art would fall foul of the TOS because they are?
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  3. #23
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    Ogawa Sanshirou
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    If it's not against ToS, every other RL service could be offered for Gil as well?

    Wait, wasn't there this girl in FFXI who....? O.o
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
    Directly from the ToS:
    2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items.
    source: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en
    COUGHcashshopCOUGH
    I mean so cute that it's their own TOS. But of course it's ok because it's them selling it......~
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  5. #25
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    Hmm I wonder...
    If somone makes a bet with someone when they're drunk, can they pay him/her with gil instead of real money or is it againt ToS?
    Asking for a friend...
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  6. #26
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Guys, all things said though... SE can't read minds. If you don't advertise it in shouts and don't talk about it in mails or on here, I doubt they could fathom why the gil is being sent. Helping out a friend / a random person, simply because you're nice - plausible deniability, imo.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadray View Post
    So the Artist would be ok because they aren't offering "any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items."

    However the person purchasing the Art would fall foul of the TOS because they are?
    Aslong as the the buyer and seller is dealing in Gil then its perfectly fine.

    Its when the seller demands real money or the buyer offers it where it goes against TOS.
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  8. #28
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    M'kael Jin
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    The reason that rule even exists is to prevent third parties from profiting off of SE's (or really any online) game. An artist is not making real money off of selling art for gil.
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  9. #29
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    Ailuros Bastet
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    COUGHcashshopCOUGH
    I mean so cute that it's their own TOS. But of course it's ok because it's them selling it......~
    it clearly says "you" may not, not "we" may not
    the wording excludes themselves from the rule
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  10. #30
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    It's against the ToS because there is no control of that comission on the RL part. People could use comissions as an excuse for real money instead of art, for gil in game, and that's where SE has no control over it, hence labeling it RMT (even if it's not) just to avoid having to deal with the posibilities. You could always do it privatedly (as not making forum threads for comissions or advertising around).
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    Last edited by Edeline; 12-16-2014 at 08:28 AM.

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