As a completist - I really hate the relic quests. Why? Because if I only do the relic quests - I personally won't have enough time to do coil. So I end up sacrificing coil in thought that I can go back to Coil later at a higher level and completely plow through it. The relic quests I would still need to go back to and grind for all of eternity. Thus as a completist I'm pulled towards this awful grind.
Ha - I realize this is my fault (I'm probably crazy). However - I wish these quests had multiple paths (such as do coil to skip "some" of the grind). At least that would provide a crazy such as I incentive to do something else with my time.
I feel the same way with a lot of these relic quests. Like another poster put also these things are time consuming, also you have to choose between coil or doing these since they take up so much time. Now there's plenty of people with lots of time on their hands who have both i'm sure. These relic quests are only good for people like me because I can jump on and start instantly on it. Other things I would have to put party finder up, wait for people or wait for DF to come up. If I had the time I would of done things differently, not done relic and would of just pushed to progress in coil, obtained the items there and call it a day. Now i'm so invested in it, that only way I will stop doing it when I stop paying for the game..which depending on 3.0 & a few other things might be sooner than I thought.*Continued*
SE, unless i see somethign remotly challanging in the relic quest, i will not do it again. my PLD nexus was finished a few days before shiva's weapons were upgraded to the same level. its clear we dont need relics anymoe, and its pure crap to do them. ilevel 125, and its only +1 dmg over the wep u get by beating t11. i am done with this. i beat t10 in 3 raid attempts without even having a raid grp for final coil and i heard t11 isn't much harder there is no dps check either. so easier to get tome weapon rather than do lvl 2 fates for 6 months.
Last edited by Leigaon; 12-16-2014 at 01:05 AM.
I'm in agreement with the OP, if the content that you had to grind for relics was even remotely challenging it would be a lot more fun to me but pretty much everything after base relic is a joke (base isn't hard anymore but I remember when titan hm was a lot harder).
Grinding fates and dungeons you've already done hundreds of times that are not even a little bit challenging is not fun to me and while the zodiac weapons are cool I really wish they would put more effort in than "do this old content you've already done until your eyes bleed". I get that some people enjoy grinding, but even they must wish that they got to grind something different or more challenging for a change.
I agree with OP, relic should require unique boss fights, etc. Something different then old content over and over.
The devs should invest as much, if not more time in the relic then they do for coil.
When you see someone with a so called legendary relic, the first thought should be "wow!!! This person actually has a relic!!" Not "oh...they must be lucky with rng"
You guys do realize that the point was not to be challenging right? Want a challenge and a high level weapon do the coil. Want it without entering coil do the relic upgrade. It was supposed to be the every man option. Where it was just a time/money sync and anyone could get it regardless of skill level. Asking for it to be more challenging is literally missing the point.
Naw, yoshida himself said that in 2.0 he was surprised how fast people were completing titan, and that he wished he made it more of a challenge.You guys do realize that the point was not to be challenging right? Want a challenge and a high level weapon do the coil. Want it without entering coil do the relic upgrade. It was supposed to be the every man option. Where it was just a time/money sync and anyone could get it regardless of skill level. Asking for it to be more challenging is literally missing the point.
Of all the things in FFXIV that are basically handed to players.
Level 50 a few day,
Gear sure 450 a week cap but still handed to players, you do a little grind you get.
Then relic, Something you need to work for. Something you feel good about finishing OMG. Every time I finish a stage of my relic I'm happy my weapon is better and I know I'm going to make it better yet.
If you don't like it don't do it. I personally love the relic quest line as it give me something to work for vs just spamming END game.
It could at least be new content, not new conditions for doing old content or content that nobody ever did to begin with. Something on par with CT/ST tier difficulty instances wouldn't be unreasonable, nobody is asking for this to be Second/Final Coil 2.0 but the fact that it actually -is- "Low Level Roulette and Garuda HM/Turn 4 Spam - The Quest Line" is ridiculous. It's not the difficulty (Or complete lackthereof) that bothers me regarding the Relic Quest. It's the fact that there's nothing new about it at all, it's just a barely hidden attempt by SE to put people back into low level content because there's no other reason to do or care about anything like that once you're 50.You guys do realize that the point was not to be challenging right? Want a challenge and a high level weapon do the coil. Want it without entering coil do the relic upgrade. It was supposed to be the every man option. Where it was just a time/money sync and anyone could get it regardless of skill level. Asking for it to be more challenging is literally missing the point.
Whenever I finish a new stage, I don't feel like i'm stronger. I feel like it's just another hurdle to get each stage for a mediocre weapon. Until they make relic on par with the raid weapons, they simply are not worth it. Since the relic is reaching it final stage soon, I am simply turned off by the whole process. All that diligence and hardwork is pointless.Of all the things in FFXIV that are basically handed to players.
Level 50 a few day,
Gear sure 450 a week cap but still handed to players, you do a little grind you get.
Then relic, Something you need to work for. Something you feel good about finishing OMG. Every time I finish a stage of my relic I'm happy my weapon is better and I know I'm going to make it better yet.
If you don't like it don't do it. I personally love the relic quest line as it give me something to work for vs just spamming END game.
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