Relic Quest is pure Crap, i am done with it SE.

[Ooshima]

How did you get the crafting items?
Dungeon farming was never the problem with the Zodiac Questline, even they still miss to added a failsafe system (some players with 20+ tries of the same dungeon while others get it with their 1st try)
I dont know the pricing on your server, here it is about 200k to 400k gil (depending if you are lucky to catch the 200k). you will need 8 of them, that makes it in total about 3M and thats close to housing!

Craft the crafting items? They are easy 3 stars, and easy money if you decided to craft some to sell. If you don't have the DoH class, you could enlist the help of your FC mates.

[Yukiko]

Craft the crafting items? They are easy 3 stars, and easy money if you decided to craft some to sell. If you don't have the DoH class, you could enlist the help of your FC mates.

Did you do it? I doubt so because alone the desynth requires you to have ALL DoH at a level where you can desynth them... and not all of the items you need are cheap either...

[Avin00]

I just love how people have rose tinted glasses when it comes to Xi. That was a grind on a whole different level. It took people years to acquire the necessary items to create one relic with the help of a huge amount of people and you are complaining about the grind needed for this? Get out go back to Xi for a few days and really remember what it was like, and make sure you take your glasses off.

[Lemuria]

I just love how people have rose tinted glasses when it comes to Xi. That was a grind on a whole different level. It took people years to acquire the necessary items to create one relic with the help of a huge amount of people and you are complaining about the grind needed for this? Get out go back to Xi for a few days and really remember what it was like, and make sure you take your glasses off.

Sure, but what did you get at the end of it all? A unique weapon skill, a weapon which could occasionally deal TRIPLE the normal damage, and even a bonus special effect on top of that such as dealing additional damage based on HP in the case of Excalibur. It wasn't just another dime-a-dozen weapon, it was special and that's why it was so highly coveted.

Another point to articulate is that the relic quest was far more involved. You had to enter Dynamis and fight difficult boss fights to obtain many of the key items necessary to finish it, there was no endless repeating of low level activities when it was first introduced, and dynamis itself required a massive team effort. Though, admittedly not so much any more that they've heavily nerfed Dynamis to the ground.

Compare and contrast to FFXIV "relics" which are just another weapon. There's nothing unique about them aside from their appearance, and the novelty of that is clearly wearing off as I've seen many relic users glamor them anyway. The quest involves doing the SAME missions we've been doing ad nauseum and killing the same enemies we've been killing since day one. There's nothing really new or exciting to look forward to during the grind.

[Nalien]

You had to enter Dynamis and fight difficult boss fights to obtain many of the key items necessary to finish it, there was no endless repeating of low level activities when it was first introduced

There was an endless repeating of Dynamis though... Farming currency for a Relic was possibly the worst grind ever conceived, I'd much rather do a variety of content than the same piece week after week...

Currency farming is, without a doubt, the main reason I loathed SE for making Mythics utter crap. The Mythic questline was amazing compared to the Relic one, such a shame the weapons didn't end up being worthwhile (then again I was a mage, my ultimate weapons were obtained at Lv51 for some idiotic reason). Yoshida should really aim to make XIV Relics more like the Mythic questline and throw in endgame content. We don't have to be doing the top endgame content here to obtain a Relic, but if the current quest had us doing First Coil for the new crafting materials? That wouldn't be too bad, and it would be a massive improvement on "Go do Aurum Vale". Why the hell didn't they at least tie in Crystal Tower to the Relic questline? It's casual as hell, but a raid is a raid. Relics could have been the weapon "drops" for Crystal Tower that way, too.

As much as I hated currency grinding as well, it certainly is an improvement on RNG. All RNG parts of the Relic quest should have functioned like XIs ancient currency; You can get lucky and have a 100 piece drop, but you're guaranteed to get plenty of single pieces which can be traded in for an 100 piece as well. Every FATE drops an Atma Shard, 100 Atma Shards = 1 Atma, and you can still get lucky and get an Atma to drop from a FATE. Oh look, RNG as something which benefits the player, rather than pissing them off.

[Synestr]

I just love how people have rose tinted glasses when it comes to Xi. That was a grind on a whole different level. It took people years to acquire the necessary items to create one relic with the help of a huge amount of people and you are complaining about the grind needed for this? Get out go back to Xi for a few days and really remember what it was like, and make sure you take your glasses off.

In XI days, it took me around a year to get Amanomurakumo as I was the #3 SAM in our group. The grind for the relics there was, to me, the true essence of grind. Earning the currency alone was a PTIA, let alone farming pops for money drops. This quest line in XIV does take a while, but shouldn't it? The easiest we had it in this line is farming lights, aside from that we just sink our time into it. Choose to or not to do it. Simple as that.

[Alberel]

I just love how people have rose tinted glasses when it comes to Xi. That was a grind on a whole different level. It took people years to acquire the necessary items to create one relic with the help of a huge amount of people and you are complaining about the grind needed for this? Get out go back to Xi for a few days and really remember what it was like, and make sure you take your glasses off.

The relics in XI also remained relevant for years. Here in XIV you're lucky if you get a couple weeks out of your relic before you either loot a better weapon or a new tier is released.

Hilarious thing is we all KNOW that the final tier of the relic will come out just before the expansion ups the level cap and renders the entire relic chain obsolete.

The amount of use you get out of these relics is NOT worth the time investment at all. A lot of people try to make out that they're 'casual' weapons but they're not even that. It's easier to get tomestone weapons than relics now and no casual can do this quest because they could never keep up with the release of new tiers. These relics are nothing but a hardcore grind for a cosmetic weapon skin... and now that we've seen the final models and most agree that they're utter garbage compared to the original models the entire quest chain is pointless for a lot of people.

[Ooshima]

Did you do it? I doubt so because alone the desynth requires you to have ALL DoH at a level where you can desynth them... and not all of the items you need are cheap either...

I desync and crafted what I could of course, I have WVR and GSM at 100. I bought others off MB because they were relatively cheap on Tonberry anyways, but then I've seen my FC mates asking for help for classes they don't have.

And even so, you can buy NQ desync mats from MB and craft it yourself which doesn't require you to have the desync class. What's expensive is getting the HQ desync mats which people sell it at 10x the NQ mats. NQ mats are just a few K gil over here iirc.

[Alistaire]

Did you do it? I doubt so because alone the desynth requires you to have ALL DoH at a level where you can desynth them... and not all of the items you need are cheap either...

Point is them being a 3-star synth means you do not need the hq materials. It's really...no, nevermind, they're worth every penny I've been selling them on the mb for. Yup.

[Yukiko]

Since novus with materia cost i thought i should server transfer, buy it on other server and transfer back... once again it seems to be the best option!
Just a sidenote: I finished my Zodiac yesterday and doing the secund one. Everything possible i did on my own and still needed more than 1M gil