Summoner Reborn - "Remade"

[SakuraMacpherson1]

I mean when i use shiva's (Diamonds Dust) or Ramuh's (judgement Bolt) I expect to do highiest magic damage in the game. or Ifirits Hellfire...I want see trash mobs die and bosses losing 10% of total of there HP < this how unkindle should be black mages damage should not match elemental power of primal even if it is egi


anyone whos investated in any final fantasy games should know . summons trump black magic

[Robert_Ilcri]

Trying to break the class again are we?

Seriously none of these changes make any damn sense, and would just completely unbalance a class, which when done right, already manages to hold it's own fairly well.

Why remove Physick and Res from Summoner? I can tell you of so many damn instances in which I saved a raid, or an ST run with a well timed revive, or hell even some back up cures.

Rouse and Sustain on players? Again broken, especially with your suggestions.

Tri-Disaster does suck, no one can admit it doesn't. They may revamp it eventually who knows.

Enkindle just needs a timer adjustment really, it's fine otherwise.

Seriously though stop trying to break this class. As stated on other forum postings you've made, you do not know what you are talking about. If you had your way, Summoner would be this overpowered demi god of a DPS, while other DPS would be broken and unusable. Just stop would you?

[SakuraMacpherson1]

clearly your the one doesn't let me protest that i been playing final fantasy's games my whole life. watch probably much longer then yours. what we have here isn't a summoner what we have here is a Time-mage who can summon. summoner pets. a real final fantasy summoner pet's wouldn't be this weak. or copy paste or steal warlock copy from wow. we want a final fantasy summoner. class gives the feel of summoner. not this garbage

this isn't about skill. I have enough of it historic tradiation call this false. Squire Enix support's player critism. however you are not Squire Enix have no right tell someone off for there believes even if they differ from your's. forums not place trash talk degrade someone else's opinions . let me state SE welcomes suggestions even if few ppl in player base is happy.


Personally i see nothing wrong with what they have now. but it isn't a summoner. it is a time mage. loose the pet's increase the damage that's is what they are

[SakuraMacpherson1]

you cannot call a class only has 3 pet's only 1 one them is tank other shitty dps no one uses <ifirit> then you have miss overpowered garada a summoner. if not mistaken. summoner's have more then this. someone asks me what does a summoner do. first thing comes to mind is we summon bad-ass pets/

not we summon okiesh pets while cast weak ass dot's having cross-class abilities that pretty much useless . we have psyheal, raise i signed up to be a damage dealer not to support someone else's healing. very crappy debuffy class. should been called time mage.


Hey... a Ifirit uses hellfire and deals only 800 damage <== isnt a summon

when ifirit can use inferno or hellfire deal about 5000 non critical damage then we can talk

[Robert_Ilcri]

I know what Summoners are. And yes it would be interesting to see them implimented as they were in old FF games... but again that would make them too powerful. SE made them like this so they could DPS while also providing back up, basically the mage form of a Bard. They do their job well... I don't really see why they need to be changed, I've been playing the class since early January. You claim the 'real' summoner thing but are they not allowed to make different choices at all? From what you're saying, no they are not... but thats just my opinion. Either way, done replying here SE isn't gonna take these seriously anyhow.

[SakuraMacpherson1]

summoner was always a "Hero Class Character" most ppl whom practiced whm or blm could use arts of but mostly white-magic user's for balencing reasons. sense old school white mage only had few offensive spells at there command "Holy, Dia" of cot damage

hen again that is basic knowledge of black magic is that using elemental weakiness of monsters using that knowledge bring monsters down. urse they had ability inflict status effect's. only one instance in final fantasy history i that remeber right off that black mage became was summoner. was best summoning class ever. Rydia from final fantasy 4. do have one thing right summoners always had to do battle first with summon they desired and win. these fights no easy tasks. to me summon's are one step higher then basic magic. only few black magic spells that could rival a full fledged summon. flare. ultima. metero . its is unheard of that fire 3 could match might of a summon unless it was weak to that element <- Shiva hit by fire III would pretty much ouwhat spell deals most damage to what. however in 14 things have changed blm's are limited to only 3 element's when there are total of 6. other 3 however was given to conjurer. in some sense it made sense however when conjurer is called for battle. its mostly for there healing. however saying this final fantasy 1 elements of black mage was just that fire,ice and lightening with black magic fillers

[SakuraMacpherson1]

this is another thing pisses me off about the summoner class in final fantasy 14. hold up sure alot of you agree with me.


are egi's look "WEAK" how did oh shit someone stop the summoner from summoning to hey guys look what I've summoned in my mind hear them all laughing at you .. what pathetic excuse of a summon more like ifirt poop. then ifirt.. they did better grafics job in final fantasy 11. at least summons were sexy

[Akiza]

I know what Summoners are. And yes it would be interesting to see them implimented as they were in old FF games... but again that would make them too powerful. SE made them like this so they could DPS while also providing back up, basically the mage form of a Bard. They do their job well... I don't really see why they need to be changed, I've been playing the class since early January. You claim the 'real' summoner thing but are they not allowed to make different choices at all? From what you're saying, no they are not... but thats just my opinion. Either way, done replying here SE isn't gonna take these seriously anyhow.

Comparing the Summoner utility to Bards are you serious. Bard's support makes them a must have in a raids Summoner's not even close. Average Black Mages easily out damage an elite Summoner which shouldn't happening. Black Mage's fire 3 rotation easily out damages Summoner's Enkindle Rotation which has a 5 min cd for what a pathetic amount of damage. If the Summoner's damage stays this low they should be able to control entire encounters otherwise SE should rebalance the Summoner separate it from the Aranist give them Summoning Magic and make them a Pure Summoner.

[SakuraMacpherson1]

Comparing the Summoner utility to Bards are you serious. Bard's support makes them a must have in a raids Summoner's not even close. Average Black Mages easily out damage an elite Summoner which shouldn't happening. Black Mage's fire 3 rotation easily out damages Summoner's Enkindle Rotation which has a 5 min cd for what a pathetic amount of damage. If the Summoner's damage stays this low they should be able to control entire encounters otherwise SE should rebalance the Summoner separate it from the Aranist give them Summoning Magic and make them a Pure Summoner.

clearly he doesn't know. we who've dedicate are life's too summoning class. cannot possibly understand are pain. when a black mage of all things completely out-damage's us. this is bloody summon "not weak ass pet. damage of our pet's should simply dominate when it comes to single target damage. we are not doing enough. to even say we equal to bards as support is direct insult

i so agree with you on that note. cause this this isnt a summoner. this is time mage (take away the pets thats what they are)

[SakuraMacpherson1]

If your unhappy with the way summoner is becoming like i am post in this post say something. clearly someone will hear you


clearly 1-50 summoner ilvl109 nearly have my animus weapon. still my damage is shit. compared to blm and bard. simply having psyheal and raise does it make up for how bad this class sucks