So what if people sell platinum and gold plans for gil?

[Vaer]

Also, someone please correct me if wrong (only played a year or so when the shop was activated), but I thought blizzard had less items on the store and did not have any items that could be resold in the game. (Although same company, their D3 AH idea was a train wreck lol).

I know there was a pet from the cash shop that could be put on the AH, the Guardian Cub. Not sure about anything else.

People got around it even before that happened, though. They would trade 60 day time card codes or 30 day gift codes for gold. There would be trust involved since it wasn't officially supported but people did it.

[cookiecutter]

Maybe not getting rid of the cash shop, but stopping this kind of content they put on it. Just look up monocle gate for EVE to see what happened the last time a MMO tried screwing players over with a cash shop. Also when do GMs ever post about current hot issues? They didn't when atma was an issue, they didn't when housing was an issue, and they won't now. Their choice in what to reply about is random at best.

I agree with you that SE has to be careful about how much they implement into the cash shop without going overboard. This patch they splurged on the cash shop but at least all the new stuff except wind up Urianger are not solely obtainable via the cash shop. We'll see how much they implement in future patches. I'm going to reserve judgment if they're taking it too far until I see what else they'll do with it. The seasonal gear can be excluded since you have to the opportunity to get this in game for free anyway as long you're playing during that time.

[Thyranne]

I know there was a minion from the cash shop that could be put on the AH, the Guardian Cub. Not sure about anything else.

People got around it even before that happened, though. They would trade 60 day time card codes or 30 day gift codes for gold. There would be trust involved since it wasn't officially supported but people did it.

YES that was its name! But they removed it from the store recently. About the 60 days this was extremly common: "buy gametime with credit card, receive the code, sell it for gold then cancel the purchase (call your credit card)", this way you stay with the gold and the money.

I agree with you that SE has to be careful about how much they implement into the cash shop without going overboard. This patch they splurged on the cash shop. We'll see how much they implement in future patches. I'm going to reserve judgment if their taking it too far until I see what else they'll do with it. The seasonal gear can be excluded since you have to the opportunity to get this in game for free anyway as long you're playing during that time.

They should have only added seasonal items (that were previously available). It'd have been perfect to me.

[Aegis]

I really like that phrase... gonna keep that for later.

I honestly think this isn't Yoshi-P tbh. This sounds like someone from upper management going, "shit, we are actually making money of FFXIV? How can we milk these idiots for more!". Ironically, this is kinda what doomed FFXIV 1.0 to fail. First was upper management forcing Tanaka and Co. to use the unoptimized and buggy Crystal Engine (built for hallway simulators). Then was their decision to get away from a unique MMO (which Tanaka wanted) and just take the FFXI assets. Finally was the descision to release FFXIV before WoW: Cataclysm even though the game was unfinished, crashing, unoptimized, and full of bugs which was painfully easy to see from the alpha and beta tests.

Than again, Yoshi has this huge love for WoW so it could be him copying yet another feature of WoW. Guess could be a mix of both.

Shit comes in cycles it seems and the bigwigs at SE haven't learned their lesson.

I'm afraid I can't take credit: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rearra...on_the_Titanic

And yeah, for me Version 1 was a game of huge potential absolutely ruined by terrible execution and a release that was a year early at least. I wish they hadn't worried so much about Cataclysm, used a decent engine like we have now, but otherwise let all those creative ideas flow. It was very much in the style of the earlier MMOs.

This version is a game with huge polish and great production values that is content to follow well-worn tracks of the genre. There is nothing innovative here at all :s.

[Niytshade]

What if they just limit a persons account to one bracelet? That would put a stop on the market. If your partner cant pay for their own bracelet you could arrange to send them some money via other means like PayPal etc.

[Sheele]

You people wanted this function in game. "Q.Q i want my pixels to get married, Q.Q". Well you finally got what you wanted, and a few people found a way to exploit it. So you cried for this, go get married, w/e the cost... after all time that could have been spent on real content was thrown out to make this bull crap stuff. If you don't care about it keep trucking as if nothing happened at all. I don't actually see an issue here for people to be crying as if the world is ending.

[RedAntares]

15m-20m on Ragnarok (Legacy server) last night for Platinum, enough to buy a Medium sized house for a bit of context.

Are people actually buying them at those prices? :O

If so I might start selling them too. :P

[Vejjiegirl]

Are people actually buying them at those prices? :O

If so I might start selling them too. :P

A few, the common price atm For Gold Plan seems to be 3.5mil, but that is the min bid.
One person could send the seller a tell offering 4mil.
Another person sends one 4.5mil

And it just increases like that.

Platinum however is a bit higher.
The one that I saw selling last night for 30mil was a Current Offer of 30mil (not min offer)

Also, Dyed gear seems to be going for 450k->500k each on Hyperion

[cookiecutter]

A few, the common price atm seems to be 3.5mil, but that is the min bid.
One person could send the seller a tell offering 4mil.
Another person sends one 4.5mil

And it just increases like that.
The one that I saw selling last night for 30mil was a Current Offer of 30mil.

Oh they auction it off? that's kinda funny. 3.5 mil is pretty easily obtained on my server.

[Vejjiegirl]

Oh they auction it off? that's kinda funny. 3.5 mil is pretty easily obtained on my server.

Yeah, some are Auctioned, while others are sold. The smart ones do the auction.
3.5 is for the gold plan (10 dollar plan)
The platinum plans are higher than that.