Zodiac Weapons The Next Step. (Findings)

[NorthernLadMSP]

30 sec for a craft.

But what about the time people have to invest to be able to craft a 3 star item??

You're right. So, because you choose to level your crafters up to be able to craft these items, I must be obligated to succumb to whatever you feel like charging me to advance my relic that I've worked so hard on.

[Xine]

You're right. So, because you choose to level your crafters up to be able to craft these items, I must be obligated to succumb to whatever you feel like charging me to advance my relic that I've worked so hard on.

Some people forget that prices crafters set are generally based on the price of the materials and then increased/decreased based on effort and supply/demand. The amount of effort it took before 2.45 to get a crafter 3* ready was enough of a reason to deter about 95% of the people I know from ever touching a crafting class. The amount of effort it takes now, is severely diminished. The only effort it takes now to get a crafter 3* ready is materia melds and a bit of gil for the Artisan's pieces (prices pending on server's market), and if you know a crafter whose at 3 or 4* level already, thats even less work involved.

This post isn't to you specifically, but a statement in general. Don't hate on crafters because they put work into their crafts, as some people have mentioned "4* crafting sounds harder than SCoB, never touching that shit". I have all my crafters up to 3* (and most at 4*) and I have a max Crit/Det Nexus and I'll say this, neither one is harder than the other, neither one is more time consuming than the other, its just a matter of how hard you grind at one vs the other that it only seems harder/more time consuming.

[StouterTaru]

You're right. So, because you choose to level your crafters up to be able to craft these items, I must be obligated to succumb to whatever you feel like charging me to advance my relic that I've worked so hard on.

There are so many 3 star crafters, most of these won't be more than 200k each in a week. The biggest issue I see is beldah'dian silver dropping from boar/peiste/unhidden maps. I'm sure the maps are sold out or going for insane prices on the MB right now.

[LineageRazor]

Yes you do. You can't begin this quest unless you obtained a Nexus relic.

Do you have to have the Nexus equipped while running the dungeons? Or do you just have to have the quest open?

I'm 2/3 done with my Curtana Nexus, and just recently finished my Veil of Wiyu Novus. Once I start this quest on my Curtana, can I run the dungeons on my SMN and get lights along with the Nexus quest items? Or will I be forced to run the dungeons as PLD with my Curtana equipped?

You're right. So, because you choose to level your crafters up to be able to craft these items, I must be obligated to succumb to whatever you feel like charging me to advance my relic that I've worked so hard on.

Never really understood this bitterness toward crafters. Complaining about having to buy expensive crafting items because you couldn't be bothered to invest in crafting yourself is as silly as a crafter who whines about not getting free T13 carries in spite of not investing in their DoM/W progression.

If you don't have time to do EVERYTHING in this game (and honestly, not many have that kind of time), then you need to pick and choose which things are important to you. On the occasions when you need access to the things you passed up, you have a few choices: Befriend someone who has taken that path and ask them for help, take the time to follow that path now and catch up, or beg or pay a stranger to do it for you.

FFXIV has been notorious about making crafters and gatherers feel like they're superfluous fluff; nearly everything that they provide amounts to little more than glamour, minions, barding - stuff that has little to no effect on actual gameplay. I cheer every time SE adds something that makes these classes feel like they're an actual, meaningful part of the game.

[NorthernLadMSP]

And yet, your example doesn't really fly with me. Why? Because crafters do NOT HAVE to beat T13 to improve their crafting class as Coil has no significance on their ability to craft. Yet, if you're a non-crafter who only likes to participate in war/magic classes running dungeons/Coil, now you are forced to be involved in crafting (in one aspect or another) to continue with your relic, be it crafting these items yourself, coughing up all that gil to pay a crafter or be lucky enough to have a friend who will help you out for free.