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  1. #31
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    The chocobo/dresses that are part of the platinum wedding package have been shown as part of the wedding system in game before the cash shop even existed. They've been hyped as part of the marriage system since ARR was in beta.
    Shown as part of the wedding promotional trailer but not stated as free or included in the price of subscription. Why can't they advertise cash shop items in a promotional trailer?

    Yea, it's still part of the marriage system. No doubt, but it's an optional part. They didn't promised you anything.
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    Some people just like Final Fantasy too much for their own good, they'll be the first to sell you yet another port of FFVII on every comment on every site they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    The chocobo/dresses that are part of the platinum wedding package have been shown as part of the wedding system in game before the cash shop even existed. They've been hyped as part of the marriage system since ARR was in beta.
    And they are STILL part of the wedding system. The wedding system in the cash shop. These things are not mutually exclusive.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    Shown as part of the wedding promotional trailer but not stated as free or included in the price of subscription. Why can't they advertise cash shop items in a promotional trailer?
    Because, again, the cash shop did not exist at any point that those were shown as part of the wedding system. That would be like a bank coming back after you purchased a house and telling you to pay more for your backyard because they have a new banking system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    The chocobo/dresses that are part of the platinum wedding package have been shown as part of the wedding system in game before the cash shop even existed. They've been hyped as part of the marriage system since ARR was in beta.
    Actually - Wedding wasn't even going to be introduced initially because of the controversy the "equal rights!" people stirred during beta. If you also want to be further technical, Yoichi Wada stated prior to XIV 1.0's release they were going to incorporate microtransactions into FFXIV. Heck it goes back to even 2001 when they stated they wanted a cash shop in FFXI but the Playoline infrastructure doesn't allow it.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 12-09-2014 at 06:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Because, again, the cash shop did not exist at any point that those were shown as part of the wedding system. That would be like a bank coming back after you purchased a house and telling you to pay more for your backyard because they have a new banking system.
    They kinda already do that with property tax increases.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Actually - Wedding wasn't even going to be introduced initially because of the controversy the "equal rights!" people stirred during beta. If you also want to be further technical, Yoichi Wada stated prior to XIV 1.0's release they were going to incorporate microtransactions into FFXIV.
    Where and when was this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    Show me please. In which notes/letter/video did SE said specifically anything about those particular items behind the cash shop being included with the price (subscription)?



    Really? Please point out which content are now starting to get forced to pay for? Unless to you items = content. You equate endgame raid as content, then proceed to say that content are being forced to pay for. I don't see any content being gated by cash shop.
    Ok Odin mount, Past seasonal items (the full marriage they've been advertising for forever if thats in cash shop)

    This game isn't just raids and endgame fights is it? There are even achievements ingame for collecting certain item and gear sets.

    Items aren't content? Mount's aren't content? The simple fact that someone can play the game for anything other than endgame seems to be beyond your comprehension. They are quite important to alot of people and they are locked behind a paywall. I guarantee if endgame content was locked behind the paywall and vanity wasn't you would be just as mad as people on the other side of the spectrum. Again this game isnt just "Level to 50 and do endgame raids" no there is much more in this game than that and people are trying to lessen the value of non combat content.
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  9. #39
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinsain View Post
    Ok Odin mount, Past seasonal items (the full marriage they've been advertising for forever if thats in cash shop)

    This game isn't just raids and endgame fights is it? There are even achievements ingame for collecting certain item and gear sets.

    Items aren't content? Mount's aren't content? The simple fact that someone can play the game for anything other than endgame seems to be beyond your comprehension. They are quite important to alot of people and they are locked behind a paywall. I guarantee if endgame content was locked behind the paywall and vanity wasn't you would be just as mad as people on the other side of the spectrum. Again this game isnt just "Level to 50 and do endgame raids" no there is much more in this game than that and people are trying to lessen the value of non combat content.
    Are those items you mentioned to be in the cash shop counted towards the achievement?
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    I don't blame Yoshi for these items being put in the cash shop, him and the team poured sweat,blood,tears, and their souls into remaking this game. I give benefit of the doubt that the powers that be are telling them what's going into the cash shop. If I was the guy that made some new paint and a suit came up to me and said "Yeah that's going to the cash shop.", I'd be pissed that this item I made is gated behind paying cash for it when it could of been put in game for all players to enjoy. Think Yoshi is rubbing his hands together with an evil smile when they decided to make Eternal Bond a cash shop gimmick? I highly doubt so, they all play this game as well why would they wanna spend cash on content they had to make?
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