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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    You do know that this doesn't invalidate anything I said, right?
    The absurdity of the logic your using does. Simply going from your OP anything and everything someone can possibly feel compelled to have, do, see or want falls under the realm of "mandatory" and "not optional".
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    Player Ahmbor's Avatar
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    V'ayne Mayathi
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    And... i am PRO SHOP and dont buy anything. But i like to have the option to reward the developers with extra money!
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    OK then. If they're optional, how about we take glamour away and put that in the cash shop? I mean, it's optional after all. Dyes? Optional. Unique armor models? Optional. Hairstyles? Optional. Coil? Optional. Extreme modes? Optional.

    Do you see where I'm going with this?
    No. Coils and EX primals are progression CONTENT, not fluff that makes no difference to your game if you have it or not. Apples to Oranges, my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    The absurdity of the logic your using does. Simply going from your OP anything and everything someone can possibly feel compelled to have, do, see or want falls under the realm of "mandatory" and "not optional".
    When it relates to the game that they're paying monthly to play, yes, it is mandatory.
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    I don't even really want metallic dye colors, but it's clear they're expanding the types of items they're willing to charge people extra for, and it's only been two patches.

    It's not a good thing, and it's making me wonder if it's worth sticking around just biding my time for the straw that breaks the camel's back.
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  6. #26
    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    No. Coils and EX primals are progression CONTENT, not fluff that makes no difference to your game if you have it or not. Apples to Oranges, my friend.
    I hope you realize that not everybody cares about Coil and EX primals. I hope you realize that not everybody cares about "progression" content, and that they prefer to take the game at their own pace.

    Nobody "needs" to do Coil. Nobody "needs" to do EX primals.
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    Last edited by Amused; 12-09-2014 at 03:55 PM.

  7. #27
    Player Ahmbor's Avatar
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    Some good game with Content and Fluff is Counter Strike Global Offensive.

    In CSGO all of the player have access to all guns and equip, but for special
    skins you can buy on the steam market or wait for luck that a chest is dropped.


    (sorry for bad english -.-)
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    What are the devs going to say? "lol sorry we don't care?" or *insert generic PR response here*

    Nothing is going to calm people down about the cash shop short of a 180 and that will only happen when hell freezes over.
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  9. #29
    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    What are the devs going to say? "lol sorry we don't care?" or *insert generic PR response here*

    Nothing is going to calm people down about the cash shop short of a 180 and that will only happen when hell freezes over.
    I would rather have a response so I can decide whether I want to keep playing this game, or if I want to leave it.

    Leaving us in the dark about this, especially springing the Eternal Bond bit on us at the last minute, is absolutely disrespectful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    When it relates to the game that they're paying monthly to play, yes, it is mandatory.
    No, it really isn't.
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