Artisan Offhand Meld Discussion.

[scarebearz]

If you look at a previous post, i said that myself that i didn't like using a rotation that relied on 4 RS.

You have miss-read my post.

Any rotation that involves the use of 1 successful RS, may need you to use RS 4 or more times, due to the RNG involvement.

[StouterTaru]

I barely read reddit except for the one time i was trying to compare and contrast relish rotation. Your rotations are as skilled as your understand and comprehension of the English language.

Again:

OK 451 craftsmanship vs 457, the numbers I gave, go ahead and refute them.

451 - PbP > INGII + 2x RS + 2xCSII
457 - PbP > 2xRS + 2xCSII

What is your magic 4 move completion? Giving up 43 CP for 10 durability?

If you look at a previous post, i said that myself that i didn't like using a rotation that relied on 4 RS.

Where was this suggested? Closest I could find was:

I would advise re-thinking these to be honest.

Both are a big CP lose and the first is a big RNG risk, as you need SH2 *and* Ing2 up for the 2 80% progress skills, meaning at best 4 trys without having to refresh those buffs. (i.e. anoher huge CP loss)

In your own words:

Your rotations are as skilled as your understand and comprehension of the English language.

[xPeAcEx]

You have miss-read my post.

Any rotation that involves the use of 1 successful RS, may need you to use RS 4 or more times, due to the RNG involvement.

Yea you're right, i misunderstood your post then. I will admit it happens but at the same time i don't use SH2 for the pBp. My start is. CZ, IQ, PbP, SH2. I will risk that fail any day.

[scarebearz]

Yea you're right, i misunderstood your post then. I will admit it happens but at the same time i don't use SH2 for the pBp. My start is. CZ, IQ, PbP, SH2. I will risk that fail any day.

It may only be a 10% chance (think reclaim lol), but when it does fail you lose 15CP and 10 dura... to me thats adding a lot more RNG risk, to an already CP-limiting and Risky rotation.

[StouterTaru]

Yea you're right, i misunderstood your post then. I will admit it happens but at the same time i don't use SH2 for the pBp. My start is. CZ, IQ, PbP, SH2. I will risk that fail any day.

OMG you stole my rotation, total hax:

CZ > IQ > SHII > 5xHasty > 2 successful PbP > up to 2 CSII (if needed to get down to 20 durability, otherwise hold off) > MMII

Use ToT any time you can, refresh CZ as soon as it wears

Middle Stuff, only use CZ a 3rd time if you are getting a lot of ToT procs

96/99 CP end run - SH/SHII > Up to 2 hasty > GS > Inno > possible fish with CSII if 0-1 Hasty used > BB > end with CSIIs

And only PbP before SHII if you didn't get 2x ToT on steps 2 and 4

[xPeAcEx]

It may only be a 10% chance (think reclaim lol), but when it does fail you lose 15CP and 10 dura... to me thats adding a lot more RNG risk, to an already CP-limiting and Risky rotation.

I don't reclaim, i haven't reclaimed a single 4 star yet. Big risks have been paying off but i'm sure i'll end up getting a fail one of these days with multiple wasted steps.

[scarebearz]

I don't reclaim, i haven't reclaimed a single 4 star yet. Big risks have been paying off but i'm sure i'll end up getting a fail one of these days with multiple wasted steps.

Your miss-understanding me again ^^

I'm not telling you to reclaim, I'm reminding you of another 90% sucess skill that still fails a lot, as I suspect you used it for the tokens. (I suspect almost all of us did)

To be honest, with the rotation you've mentioned and never having used reclaim, I'd be surprised if you've done even 50 4*'s without a fail, ifyou have done more than 50 and HQ'd everything, you must be doing something amazing for the middle steps of your crafts xD

[xPeAcEx]

Your miss-understanding me again ^^

Yea i did lol. At first i didn't use reclaim for the tokens because i had a good streak for my first 3 books. 6nq 3hq, 5nq 3hq, 6nq 3hq. Then i tried to do carpenter and made 11nq and 3hq because i was being stubborn but for the remaining two i used reclaim a lot and i got lucky because i only lost mats one time for both books.

I have done 14 4 star crafts so far and have had all hq. We'll see how it goes tho in the future and i expect at least a couple to nq down the line but i will knock those off as a calculated expense. I'm sure there is room for improvement and i need to do some more work comparing shark fin soup compared to bouil

[BobbinT]

btw, are there any chance that you could do all grade 4 pentamelds? ^^;

[scarebearz]

btw, are there any chance that you could do all grade 4 pentamelds? ^^;

You could, but it would be a total waste of gil in my opinion.