So what's the general consensus on DPS ranking now in 2.4?

[ViviAnimus]

If you see the start of the video, you see him at 450 DPS or something whilst in the kill video he was a lot higher (50 DPS actually at the same point of time). My numbers on T13 fluctuate between 530 and 430 with 115 staff and around 480-420 at add phase. It's been like that on every fight but not by such big margins. The BLM will always have a nice fundamental amount of DPS, but to go skyhigh, the RNG such a Firestarters, Thunderprocs and critical hit ratio is a factor. Selene is a factor and getting Battlevoiced Foes is a factor.

Firestarter has 40% chance of procing. Let us say that through the battle you have 30% Fireprocs and at another try you had 10% less Fireprocs. How many Fire I do you think you cast during these fights and how much do you think a 10% less ratio difference in damage output? A lot

[Skeith-Adeline]

You have BLM at the end of your ladder? O.o Bad BLM experience I take it?

I have for FC progression:

Monk, Ninja, BLM, SMN, Bard, DRG.
Reason I have DRG that low is, I'm expecting him to die at one point Kappa

And yes, BLM is extremely RNG dependent.
ilvl 115, solo (no food + pots) 13 minute check at 14% crit - 448
Same conditions, 13 minute check with 32% crit - 481

[Gildarts]

Also, Black Mage is totally RNG and also dependend on how you arrange the fight.

thats same for other jobs too not only blm.

[Ruddi]

For dungeons and ST my BLM almost every time out-damage any other DPS other than BLM at same lvl skills but since i got BLM at 111 I also got SMN at same lvl that is close or in same DPS as my BLM. This is based on enmity bar seen in PT.

My NIN at 101 and BRD at 105 does really nice damage too!

[Ricdeau]

For dungeons and ST my BLM almost every time out-damage any other DPS other than BLM at same lvl skills but since i got BLM at 111 I also got SMN at same lvl that is close or in same DPS as my BLM. This is based on enmity bar seen in PT.

My NIN at 101 and BRD at 105 does really nice damage too!

Enmity bar is a poor judge of actual damage done.

[loreleidiangelo]

Enmity bar is a poor judge of actual damage done.

This. SMN used to be top DPS on stuff like T9 but generates poor enmity due to the nature of dots and the fact that their enmity is split between them and their pet. Doesn't necessarily mean their numbers are bad. MNK and NIN can do crazy numbers, yeah, but have no threat dump so they can be higher on the enmity list than a skilled BLM who uses Quelling constantly off CD or a DRG who has just popped Elusive. Doesn't mean their numbers are top (they usually are, but it's heavily dependent on the encounter).

[Zeny]

As a Blackmage I am never out Damaged by a bard ever. If a Bard Out damages you then you may have made a mistake in your rotation. Dragoons generally do not do as much damage as me either. I am normally second or 3rd only to Mnk as first and myself and nin fight for second. We put out good dps working on t12.

Even with the rng involved with being a blackmage I find this to be true. However a large part of our DPS is because that bard is playing Foes Requiem, we get a substantial dps gain and the Bard gets a dps loss. Without the support of that buff I think bard would win out just on mobility, but otherwise they are pretty even when I compare the two. With the right rotation a good blackmage will find himself slightly ahead of a bard though.

[ShinryuReishiki]

Even with the rng involved with being a blackmage I find this to be true. However a large part of our DPS is because that bard is playing Foes Requiem, we get a substantial dps gain and the Bard gets a dps loss. Without the support of that buff I think bard would win out just on mobility, but otherwise they are pretty even when I compare the two. With the right rotation a good blackmage will find himself slightly ahead of a bard though.

BRD does not lose any DPS from Foe Requiem. Only Army's Paeon and Mage's Ballad result in a DPS loss.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

Monk>ninja>ninja>ninja>ninja>ninja>ninja>ninja>ninja>LAGoon.

[Necato]

With the right rotation a good blackmage will find himself slightly ahead of a bard though.

Slightly ? Either I'm really bad or our BLM is really good.
There's no way I'm close to his DPS on Raids, okay maybe in T11 as he is on the sphere with physical DPS.
When he is around 420 I'm barely at 400. But the moment I start singing Pean/Ballad, I fall waaay behind.

What scares me in this thread is that, depending on Turns, I'm above our DRG and SMN. It seems that should not happen :s