So what's the general consensus on DPS ranking now in 2.4?

[FizzyGiggles]

As a Blackmage I am never out Damaged by a bard ever. If a Bard Out damages you then you may have made a mistake in your rotation. Dragoons generally do not do as much damage as me either. I am normally second or 3rd only to Mnk as first and myself and nin fight for second. We put out good dps working on t12.

[Zeny]

As a Blackmage I am never out Damaged by a bard ever. If a Bard Out damages you then you may have made a mistake in your rotation. Dragoons generally do not do as much damage as me either. I am normally second or 3rd only to Mnk as first and myself and nin fight for second. We put out good dps working on t12.

Even with the rng involved with being a blackmage I find this to be true. However a large part of our DPS is because that bard is playing Foes Requiem, we get a substantial dps gain and the Bard gets a dps loss. Without the support of that buff I think bard would win out just on mobility, but otherwise they are pretty even when I compare the two. With the right rotation a good blackmage will find himself slightly ahead of a bard though.

[ShinryuReishiki]

Even with the rng involved with being a blackmage I find this to be true. However a large part of our DPS is because that bard is playing Foes Requiem, we get a substantial dps gain and the Bard gets a dps loss. Without the support of that buff I think bard would win out just on mobility, but otherwise they are pretty even when I compare the two. With the right rotation a good blackmage will find himself slightly ahead of a bard though.

BRD does not lose any DPS from Foe Requiem. Only Army's Paeon and Mage's Ballad result in a DPS loss.

[Necato]

With the right rotation a good blackmage will find himself slightly ahead of a bard though.

Slightly ? Either I'm really bad or our BLM is really good.
There's no way I'm close to his DPS on Raids, okay maybe in T11 as he is on the sphere with physical DPS.
When he is around 420 I'm barely at 400. But the moment I start singing Pean/Ballad, I fall waaay behind.

What scares me in this thread is that, depending on Turns, I'm above our DRG and SMN. It seems that should not happen :s

[Sleigh]

Slightly ? Either I'm really bad or our BLM is really good.
There's no way I'm close to his DPS on Raids, okay maybe in T11 as he is on the sphere with physical DPS.
When he is around 420 I'm barely at 400. But the moment I start singing Pean/Ballad, I fall waaay behind.

What scares me in this thread is that, depending on Turns, I'm above our DRG and SMN. It seems that should not happen :s

Oh it can definitely happen. The difference is you have a DRG, which I'm guessing that most of the people (including myself) don't necessarily consider when ranking DPS numbers. DRG buffed BRD can easily compete with SMN and DRG in many fights, if not destroy their numbers in particular fights. I pegged 2.38 BRD around 400+ without a DRG and anywhere from 430-450 with a DRG, which is about what a SMN and DRG could do back then too on a single target. Taking that into considering, BRD converts better than DRG to T10-13 (I've never seen DRG win), and due to MP issues, BRD can beat SMN in T10, T11, and probably T13.

I'm just hoping there are some SMN buffs along with the DRG buffs.