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  1. #351
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    Thistledown's Avatar
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    Mighty Miggles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    The marriage isn't behind a paywall. the COSMETIC Mount and minion is.
    What he said. This QQ about eternal bond is pointless. It is free and available for everyone. Only if you want the extra features like the mount should you be asked to make cash payment.

    Unless materia melding rate buff is incorporated into cash shop system, I will stay content.

    Thrice damned QQers took Windup Nanamo from cash shop to sub exclusive. I am very sore.
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  2. #352
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Putting a Big feature like Marriage behind a paywall isn't what I call Cosmetic. Please don't give me the "it's free" deal because they are most likely putting the biggest things that every couple in-game would probably want behind a paywall. When it should be in game. Minions? Fine Holiday items? sure Mounts? pushing it a little A Big feature like Marriage.. That's where I cross the line.
    Get your facts straight. Marriage / Eternal Bond isn't behind a paywall. The cosmetics is. Damn these haters are going blind from all the hate to a point of fact twisting.
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  3. #353
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    Etoile Elysium
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    Just throwing this out there but has it even been CONFIRMED that the premium will cost real money?
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  4. #354
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    Felicia Sarunay
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    The dangerous aspect to theory craft is usually the overgrown expectation. When the details for the Eternal Bond are finalized in stone, we are going to find even more excuses to bash every end of it, but then we forget the stupidity of doing so before. What makes an idea terrible should not be the failed expectations, but the execution and the recovery. If an idea is bad, we will know why once it is shown for what it is, so instead of assuming the worst with something to vague to measure, accept anything is possible and wait for evidence before destroying what could be perfect for someone else. Fear mongering never helped with 1.0 and honestly did not help with housing. You only have yourself to blame when you push the stretch of awful potential so far the final product is unenjoyable even if the product is spectacular. Just think clearly for once preserve the criticism for the test drive.
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  5. #355
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    Felicia Sarunay
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    Why not wait for the facts on Eternal Bonding by thinking of possible ideas for it instead of focusing on the negative what-ifs? One thing I never could stop wondering about was how divorce would be implemented. I would love to see how this game could handle divorce, which is pretty taboo in most cultures. In regard to the real money assumption, why not consider the store could be building up the applications as a form of phase shifting in game. They have done it before more times then I can count and it would be pretty easy to adjust the character data enough to promote the need of in game currency to pay for the respected tiers of marriage. The technology is there!
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    Last edited by Evnatia; 12-05-2014 at 03:44 PM.

  6. #356
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    The Eternal Bond still provides these two aspects regardless of what happens: the ceremony is providing the chance for two people to share their eternal bond with one another and the proof of their bond is presented in the free version of this service. If someone is honestly annoyed enough to say the service is useless because of a few in-game items, I would like to question their reasons for doing the ceremony in the first place. Is the measure of your bond melted in material belongs and flashy add-ons to inform others of your "supposed bond" or are you truly a couple that can see past the gimmicks to embrace the sacred bond on a personal level? For the game to offer the ceremony free of charge provides the original content with all the meaning in tact. If you really want the items, then pay for them. Honestly, whatever the turn out is in regard to the use of currency real or fake, remember the option to share in your love with the one you love is free and just around the corner.
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  7. #357
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    wait what? it was said while a live letter, indeed find the info now seems strangely hard but still, you have the free version that allows you to enjoy the basic feature and a version gated behind the cash shop with all the other vanity feature. like said, it's not the eternal bond the trouble but what it can lead to. more feature that will be watered down for allows to get cash from the player by putting a part of this feature into the cash shop. it's freemium thing, that come from the free 2 play, exept we are not into free 2 play... we are in a subs game, we can't play if we don't pay the subs, then this freemium option is not welcome it's the worst idea every proposed before!

    another point, when it will be in the game, it will be too late, because take out something from a mmorpg, take more time than put it in. because a lot of feature will be tie to it and it often have more impact on the game to move it out than put it in. for make simple, i have the feeling they laying low, instead to answer them community and simply will put it into the game and wait that people will forget it. they have done it with the cash shop...

    because people tend to forget how the forum did say no to the cash shop while the beta and after the release. i will be blunt, i will not be satisfy anymore by anymore empty word that thing will not be like this or like that... from now i want action! i want them to be true to them word... i'm tired to see them act more and more rude to them playerbase. this last 6 month they don't have stop to take us for idiot. it did begin with the hunt and after it was the personal housing, followed by the cash shop and now this? seriously?

    Yoshida in an interview before the release of the game did said that mmorpg are a service, i wonder if he still see this like this or not? because is not the feeling that i get from it. we are not anymore customer but milking cow. and for the people saying you don't know what will happend... i will only say this, 2.5 with the golden saucer + triple triad tie to a Ios application!
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  8. #358
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
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    People getting angry at a business trying to make money. I don't recall SE being a Non-Profit Organization. You only see the standard plan as a watered down version because you want to label it that way. In fact, I can say that the standard plan was the original version and the premium plan was meant for players who had more cash to spare and is given the option to opt for an extravagant wedding.

    Do you get angry at Celebrities who throws an extravagant wedding at an Island while you can only opt for a normal garden wedding? Lol.
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  9. #359
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    There are some people that I'd happily /salute, if I were a business, and proceed to pull the money out of their pockets, while they thank me for it. Some even go as far as to defend me against others who don't enjoy how they're treated. Model consumers from a business' view.
    Alas, I am not a business, so the gesture I'd give said people would be very different from a salute.

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    Edit, unrelated to my previous statement, only in the same post for daily post reasons;
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    The marriage isn't behind a paywall. the COSMETIC Mount and minion is.
    The mount isn't merely "COSMETIC", as its ability to carry 2 players is as of yet entirely unattainable in-game. The only other existing 2 player mount is from the friend referral, which requires somebody to pay 3 months worth for you to get it - somebody who started a new account, mind you, so all the friends you referred previously to that system didn't count for jack. And if you didn't have any friends remaining that you hadn't referred yet, well, too bad.
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    Last edited by Riepah; 12-05-2014 at 05:07 PM.

  10. #360
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    Etoile Elysium
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    So nobody's answered my question yet...

    Has it been confirmed that the Gold Plan will cost real life money?

    I am against the idea of such a thing too but I'd rather wait until we get actual confirmation. It's highly possible that payment schemes can be similar to housing. Want a house? You get a small one for 4m. Want a bigger house? You gotta pay more gil.
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