Sands became too hard to get in ST

[TomTom1968]

ST died for me on the day they removed the loot lockout. Either do it in a full premade group or go to Coil 2 instead. Might be worth it if you are after armor items only but people are needing/greeding on everything to equip the classes they never play or to store the items for the next patch when you can surely return ilevel 100 items to your Grand Company.

[ArniQQ]

I got too much sand, oil and whatever

[JonBigwood]

If now it's difficult to get sands, before it was much much more difficult. And you can get more than one a week.

The difference is that some time ago the UAT were more sought for and now mostly all people pass since there are less obtaineable weapons than upgradeable gear and most people have all the UAT they need. So maybe it looks sands and oils are more difficult now to get, but it's only relatively to UAT, not relatively to before the weekly lock disappeared.

You can be unlucky and not get a sand in 20 tries? Yes, you can.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Yeah, T6-8 are much better. I think I've gotten maybe one single sand from ST since the restriction was lifted.

However, in doing farming parties of T6-8, I've aquired like 6-7 sands just in the last week or two.

[Saevel]

I'd have been happy if the lockout was just changed to one item per run through.

[Artiste]

I did 2 runs of ST this morning :

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[ZodMel]

I did 2 runs of ST this morning :

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http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/85...2014133329.jpg

Just do SCOB. Syrcus Tower is Troll INC. these days anyway.

[Kaiser-Ace]

I don't run ST much more because I got all the sands and oils I needed. Now that the 120 gear is out I can bypass the Oil/Sand gear for my non mains and with my Pld already being geared heavily and my Drg not needing but a few more peices of Poetics gear there's no point for me to run ST any more. I roll on every sand, oil, and UAT that droped before hand and still roll on any other gear I don't have. But the thing is, it's a bad grind to NOT roll on every thing. I've rolled 90 on sand and got beat by a 99 roll but I've also won it with as little as 20 because no one else wanted it.

Back when it was relevent though, oil was impossible to get because EVERYBODY wanted it and you could only have 1 item per week. Sands wernt even drops then. So if it simply not quick enough for your tasts then the Second Coil and all of it's pains may be better. As for me I hate the coils and rarly return once I clear them (I've yet to do t1-4 again after my 1st and only t5 win) so I use ST. That's why this game has so many options, because not every thing is for every one.

[warren-ragnarok]

Syrcus should be made so that you can only win 1 item per run. I think that would make things way fairer

then you have a bunch of people drop after they get their loot and queue back up too repeat

[Itseotle]

Have 8 oils in inventory (yes I stopped rolling on them!) but no sands =( need ma upgrades!