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  1. #111
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    Xairos's Avatar
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    Xairos Karalis
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
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    Thing is, theoretically, we pay more anyway. I mean I can technically say that "in order to play DRK, you have to pay $45" (because the expansion). I'd be right. Is it bleak, yeah it is, but it's true.

    As for the card game you are probably correct that they might charge for additional packs. I see it like this, they can create a team to develop the card game by pulling people away from other full-time projects and the card game can be present but kinda half-way done. Or they can create a team to do it full time, require that the team's pay come from the cash shop and the game might have more depth and feel like it has more of a soul.

    My wallet prefers the former, free, option. But my sense of playing games for fun would rather have the more developed option.
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  2. #112
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    Florence Leduc
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    i'm like you, don't get me wrong i'm the first one to support a game by buying a dlc when it worth it. but there it's at the same point than the DLC of FF13-2. when people was forced to buy a dlc for get the ending of the game... they are not worth it, i found it bad... because, well we already paying a sub! they need to stop to use FF14 money for them other project!

    them society was really in bad shape before ARR come out, it's not too much to say that SE was saved by the game, but the game now is in bad shape on many point. but the most critical are the server charge that seems to be unable to support the game efficiently... Yoshida was asked if they plan to change them and him answer did scare me... it will be them last resort to change the server for increase the charge!

    a lot of content are affected by this... like the servant system, the fact that we can't get a lure box for the fishing (one more time said in this live letter), the number of furniture per house,....
    but no, this trouble is not important, even when they admit themself that it affect the devellopement of new content of game! however, they find logical to make us pay an additional fee for cosmetic into the game. it's worrying when you look at all the thing said and done for the past year and you look at what they said for the eternal bonding!

    something is not right! like i have said i'm the first one to pay for support a game... but this time, the game have done nothing that worth this sort of support.
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  3. #113
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    Vanicesol Luna'ciel
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    Diabolos
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    What is with this stuff and the Black Knights coming in and playing Doomsayer AGAIN?

    Is the 2 seated mount gamebreaking? No it's not.
    Is it convenient? Yes it is.
    Does it suck they only give you one color dye outfit for your bride and groom clothing? Yes.
    Is it gamebreaking? No it's not.

    I swear people will complain about ANYTHING that involves real money without even botherig to even THINK.
    This what gets me about the Black Knights, they BELIEVE they are making legit points...when they are the furthest away from it. The cash shop WOULD be a point if people didn't ask for easier ways to get Fantasias 2 extra Retainers. The Slepnir mount being sellable WOULD be a point if it was just plain better than any other mount in the game...it's not. The minions WOULD be a point if they was any different...they aren't, just buy one for $5 if you want it that badly.

    This wedding is absolutely no different. They want to make sure that the Eternal Bond...is OBVIOUSLY ETERNAL, so they added a money option to make certain that people are serious from the getgo, y'know, like real fanciful weddings?

    "But we pay subscriptionz" You pay to play the game, that's it. I hope you guys FINALLY get that memo because that's why more and more people gravitate towards F2P anyways. There are plenty of problems in this game, this is seriously not one of them, but watch the doomsayers say how wrong I am on it and blah blah blah.
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  4. #114
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    Yahavage Silvanesti
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    It's frightening how many people don't think paying is a problem <_< no wonder EA and Activision are where they are now. SE are just going to follow suit and soon we'll have a nice plethora of content we can't access because we didn't pay on top of our subs.
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  5. #115
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    Andari Tauori
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    Just registered on these forums to say this is awful
    I already pay every month! if things are going to cost money in-game, I should just unsubscribe and play something else!
    P2P or F2P. SE, you can't have your cake AND eat it.
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  6. #116
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xhominid View Post
    This wedding is absolutely no different. They want to make sure that the Eternal Bond...is OBVIOUSLY ETERNAL, so they added a money option to make certain that people are serious from the getgo, y'know, like real fanciful weddings?
    You talk about people not thinking and then come out and spout something stupid like this. This isn't why they added it.
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  7. #117
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    Haken Browning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yahavage View Post
    It's frightening how many people don't think paying is a problem <_< no wonder EA and Activision are where they are now. SE are just going to follow suit and soon we'll have a nice plethora of content we can't access because we didn't pay on top of our subs.
    If you don't like it then unsubscribe, Square Enix doesn't care about 100 angry posts on the forums as long as the people complaining are still paying their sub fee. Other people are buying these Cash Shop produces and services - that is a fact. Being "Complacently against" this practice (Stating you're against it but still giving SE your money by paying for the game every month) just tells them that even if you're angry you're not angry enough to stop playing, ie they can keep doing what they're doing. They have no incentive to stop until their bottom line takes a hit.

    So by all means keep complaining on the forums, maybe you'll get an apology from Yoshi-P to appease you, but ultimately nothing is going to change until people stop posturing and actually take action over this.
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    Last edited by Prototype909; 11-30-2014 at 04:53 AM.

  8. #118
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    Vanicesol Luna'ciel
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You talk about people not thinking and then come out and spout something stupid like this. This isn't why they added it.
    So what's the reason? More money like a company will typically aim for? Funny how you don't say the reason outright yet tell me I spouted something stupid.

    You have a free and you have a paid version, either nut up and get serious with someone REAL FAST, or shut it up and go for the free version or like me, don't bother with the weddings period.
    This is just needless whining for the sake of it.
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  9. #119
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    Yuuna Luna
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    Not sure if this is wide-spread knowledge, but this appears to be the mount in question, if anyone wanted to see what it was that you won't be able to get.



    Unless they've already released images of it, I figure we may as well kill the hype now. That's it. That's the bird.
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  10. #120
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selkie View Post
    Not sure if this is wide-spread knowledge, but this appears to be the mount in question, if anyone wanted to see what it was that you won't be able to get.



    Unless they've already released images of it, I figure we may as well kill the hype now. That's it. That's the bird.
    Looks gorgous!
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