Is it normal for a healer at lv45 to get one shotted during Garuda's last phase aoe?

[Hyunckel]

I went into Garuda trial to progress the story...

Well the healer got one shotted almost all the time during Garuda's ultimate even while being behind a pillar, one with 2 boulders left out of three.

Once the Dragoon (who died almost all the time as well) and Bard (who did lower dps than me as Warrior) managed to be reactive and kill adds fast enough, we managed to have a 3 boulders pillar 'alive' to hide behind and attain last phase 3 times (out of 10 wipes and then vote to abandon).

Guess what, Garuda loves to teleport out of the circle so we couldn't get behind her during that last phase. ALL THOSE TIMES THE HEALER WOULD GET ONE SHOTTED o_O

Is that normal ?

EDIT:

People are confusing Recknoning (which uses the pillars as a survival mechanism but destroys them) with the Shrieks that happen AFTER Reckoning, during the 'second half' of the fight (This is a mechanic actually not present in Hard/Extreme so it's easy to forget exists). There's two types that happen:
-When she appears in the middle (First, seen regardless of DPS): you need to get behind her to avoid getting wrecked.
-When she appears against one of the walls while the wind storm is up (Second, seen if your DPS is low): You just want to be as far from her as possible - if you're on 'the opposite end' the damage is severely reduced.

So yeah, it was because the healer, besides being slow, also didn't move to the far opposite edge of the circle when Garuda teleports aways from the area in the last phase.

I went into the trial 5 min ago, first try, clear. DPS were also much better it seems (adds dieing super fast and boss burned in no time). The healer was also much better (last one let people dip under 50% for extended durations, which made them die 100% of the time on the unavoidable ultimate in phase 1, even with 5 boulders up)

Well, at least this is done.

Thanks everyone !

[Taliph]

The damage you take is based upon the total number of builders remaining, not just the pillar you are behind.

Iirc at least 5 boulders have to remain for everyone to survive every time.

[Eisengrim]

Keep all pillars up or you're gonna have a bad time. The amount of stones left in a pillar doesn't matter, it's how many pillars that are left. You also don't have to hide behind a pillar during her big AoE. You take the same damage either way.

[Hyunckel]

I didn't know that. That'll help (a bit) to know why the team fails (mostly the dps 'race' against adds since I did my job swiftly to position boss so that she couldn't aoe the pillars once)

Well we managed to get to last phae 3 times though.

What about last phase when Garuda teleport 45 meters away from the circle? We can't get behind her.

Is that normal to have the healer (and dragoon in this case) get one shotted? Does going as far as possible to the opposite edge reduce the damage taken? Didn't seem like it.

[Galactimus]

Yep the replies here are correct:

You need a total of five rocks remaining to survive her AoE unassisted. If you have four boulders remaining you need to Tank LB, Sacred Soil, Stoneskin and Adloqium or its a wipe. Hiding behind a rock does not decreases the damage you take from her AoE. DPS need to kill the plumes quickly, and Tanks need to keep Garudas cleaves away from the rocks.

[Taliph]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVZEQ05A_VE

Might as well get used to watching these, all your questions are already answered in vids like this.

[Eisengrim]

If you're talking about her minstral song attack you hide behind a pillar to take no damage. As long as her line of sight with you is broken you're safe.

And for her big aoe, aerial blast, the poster above is right. You should be able to all survive with 5 stones left, but I think it's easier to just try to keep all pillars up without worrying about counting.

[Hyunckel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVZEQ05A_VE

Might as well get used to watching these, all your questions are already answered in vids like this.

Thanks but I always watch a video before going in a fight like this. I will watch this one, but so far nobody was able to answer why the healer and dragoon would die each time during the unavoidable aoe in last phase when Garuda teleport away from the enclosed area. Otherwise we would have made it.

EDIT: That video's from a website I use daily. The tank made several mistakes in positionning the boss, but nevertheless the healer and dps were good to carry on the duty.

To answer my own question: YES YOU NEED TO GO TO THE OPPOSITE EDGE during the aoe Garuda does after she teleported away from the circle (which you can't dodge by going behind her)

I guess I just had a bad healer

Thanks for the nice informations Taliph, Eisengrim & Galactimus. Much appreciated.


/close thread

[Garlyle]

People are confusing Recknoning (which uses the pillars as a survival mechanism but destroys them) with the Shrieks that happen AFTER Reckoning, during the 'second half' of the fight (This is a mechanic actually not present in Hard/Extreme so it's easy to forget exists). There's two types that happen:
-When she appears in the middle (First, seen regardless of DPS): you need to get behind her to avoid getting wrecked.
-When she appears against one of the walls while the wind storm is up (Second, seen if your DPS is low): You just want to be as far from her as possible - if you're on 'the opposite end' the damage is severely reduced.

[Hyunckel]

People are confusing Recknoning (which uses the pillars as a survival mechanism but destroys them) with the Shrieks that happen AFTER Reckoning, during the 'second half' of the fight (This is a mechanic actually not present in Hard/Extreme so it's easy to forget exists). There's two types that happen:
-When she appears in the middle (First, seen regardless of DPS): you need to get behind her to avoid getting wrecked.
-When she appears against one of the walls while the wind storm is up (Second, seen if your DPS is low): You just want to be as far from her as possible - if you're on 'the opposite end' the damage is severely reduced.

Yeah that was our issue. That was the information I was looking for. Thanks a lot !

I'm probably at my daily limit of messages posted once again, so don't fret if I don't reply to the thread anymore people I got was I was looking for now, so it's all good ^_^