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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    After desynthing ~30 Artisan's Spectacles and not getting a single Mastercraft Demimateria I just felt like stopping by to say thanks.

    Thanks for making it clear that crafting should be limited to people with luck or RMT's.

    I should just buy some gil and get the demis needed. No luck needed.
    Or you could just farm T4, sell the mats/sol/materia/desynthed items and have plenty of gil to buy them from the market board like most others are doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Or you could just farm T4, sell the mats/sol/materia/desynthed items and have plenty of gil to buy them from the market board like most others are doing?
    That doesn't actually solve the issue at hand. Your go to option shouldn't be to farm gil and buy it. It's one thing if you are buying items made by crafts you haven't geared high enough to get yourself, it's a completely different thing when you are gated from acquiring something because of lottery game mechanics being unfavorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    That doesn't actually solve the issue at hand. Your go to option shouldn't be to farm gil and buy it. It's one thing if you are buying items made by crafts you haven't geared high enough to get yourself, it's a completely different thing when you are gated from acquiring something because of lottery game mechanics being unfavorable.
    Most things in MMO are based on RNG, so you need to get used to it tbh.

    Coil drops, melding, 3/4* crafting, atma, etc etc etc lol.

    You are not "gated" (unlike coil), you just need to put in more effort to farm them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Most things in MMO are based on RNG, so you need to get used to it tbh.

    Coil drops, melding, 3/4* crafting, atma, etc etc etc lol.

    You are not "gated" (unlike coil), you just need to put in more effort to farm them.
    Keep in mind there are good ways of implementing RNG and bad ways. Mastercraft Demimateria is not a good design concept.

    Coil isn't even a relevant example because you have side grade options via tome gear. You could theoretically never get your chest piece from coil but eventually you'll get an equivalent ilvl chest from tokens. Tome gear eases the effects of bad luck.

    3/4* crafting also doesn't really come into play because you as a player have ways of affecting that RNG.

    Atma was also an awful design mechanic. I really don't think anyone ever thought it was a well designed idea for relic progression.

    There is no side grade equivalent for crafting, no token gear, so if you get bad RNG you just have to deal with it. People would have less complaints about MCD drop rates if you could acquire an equivalent eventually. Something akin to Sealant dailies without the ability to sell the tokens on the MB.
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    ^^^
    Patch 2.45
    Mastercraft Demimateria added to Ixal Oaknot vendor for 30 (likely 42) Oaknots.
    Please look forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    I want things that take time to get handed to me immediately.
    Ok. You can either play the rng game with desynth, or you can, you know, use that 3star craft you already have to figure out how to make money. Then just buy it off market without dealing with rng.

    Crafting is an investment and gil is required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Or you could just farm T4, sell the mats/sol/materia/desynthed items and have plenty of gil to buy them from the market board like most others are doing?
    This only works to a degree because of RMTs flooding the market with MC. There's also so much effort one can put when they can theoretically desyn 50 spectacles and still not get a MC (this is starting to sound like atma...). Top that off with the poor distribution of desyn oppertunties between the crafts...welp it just becomes a bigger issue.
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