Medica II abuse needs to stop

[LionKing]

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong to put up Regen and casting Medica 2 PRIOR to the pull, not when the Tank pulls, not spamming, one is enough per group, because:

As Paladin, a Flash and a Circle of Scorn are enough to overcome threat generated by Regen tick, both from Regen itself and from Medica 2.
As Warrior, two Overpower or one Steel Cyclone + one Overpower are enough to hold aggro.

The problem, however is the position of the WHM where he stands when he does that. Most of the time, I saw them standing right far behind back, causing the annoyance of having a chase around the mobs in case the tank fail to hold aggro fast enough, causing the mess. The fix to this is pretty easy, GO WITH THE TANK AND STAY NEAR BY, so even when the mobs are after you, the Tank still have easier time getting them back as they are either on you or on the Tank. That way, no mess is actually happened and everyone is happy.

[Cynfael]

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong to put up Regen and casting Medica 2 PRIOR to the pull, not when the Tank pulls, not spamming, one is enough per group, because...

Still unnecessary and wasteful to precast Medica II etc on full-HP parties.

Also, let the tanks do their job without needing to compensate for preexisting threat when possible.

[Its_Elodie]

I saw my first abuse of Medica 2 in ST a few days ago. We had two whm's healing and one of the tanks were about to pull the last boss. One of them *just* got aggro when Xande abruptly went on a mission, chasing one of our whm's around the field while the tanks desperately followed in hot pursuit. They finally got it under control but for the rest of battle that same whm was 2nd on hate out of the entire group the entire fight because of his medica 2 spam. He didn't stop after that either. I couldn't believe it. We didn't have THAT many melee and weren't taking THAT much damage. What a waste :/ I think if you're healing and second on the hate list all of the time then something is probably wrong.

[Ryfee]

I understand situations where you have to Divine Seal+Regen the tank before you Holy enemies to death in Speedruns, BUT I fail to see why using Medica 2 pre-pull in raids is ever a good idea. Every time I see this I want to cry at the other WHM. Regen is easy to remove, but Medica 2 requires everyone to remove them. Some people don't even know how to do this. That said, Medica 2 is not Succor. WHM doesn't have infinite mana. Just because Medica 2 HoT heals everyone doesn't mean you have to keep it up all the time. WHMs who don't know simple things like threat/mana management always make me cringe.

[Vena_Sera]

This thread gave me cancer.

[Daniolaut]

This is a trend I've been seeing slowly pick up, it's just outright dumb now. I swear 80+% of pug WHMs I see in roulettes and dungeons pre-cast Medica II or blow it as the tank is pulling,

Also White Mage's who start a titan fight with regen.

I cast stoneskin before the tank pulls, then cast two more stoneskins, the second and third right as they are ripped off and then proceed as normal.

I -NEVER- pull threat from -ANY- tank.

Stop overhealing. I agree.

I wear tank gear so my medicas aren't too op. Also so what if enemies punch me for a few seconds i'll just stoneskin my self -> swiftcast stoneskin to mitigate emnity while medica 2 ticks and heals me. Tank should be able to grab hate by then if not, i question thee!
If it isn't coil then probs won't be as big of a deal to ppl.
Also cuz i think its from all this high geared ppl flooding into dungeons.

Wait,

you wear tank gear

and

precast medica II?

Maybe rethink your strategy or play a different job because neither of these things make sense to me.

[worldofneil]

I saw my first abuse of Medica 2 in ST a few days ago.

I had a similar experience in ST last night. WHM in another alliance pre-casted Medica 2, their tank then pulled Scylla who then promptly went straight after the WHM. What made it worse was as soon as the tank engaged so did everyone else and I felt sorry for that tank struggling to get the hate back and it was a good ~10 seconds or so before things were back to "normal", all because that healer precast Medica 2.

Even more shocking was that he continued to do it with every subsequent fight, apparently learning nothing from that first fight. I was biting my tongue the entire time (not in my party and I didn't feel like sounding like a jerk across the entire alliance since we can't /tell). Thankfully their tank started expecting him and compensating, but I got the impression he was still overcuring the entire time we were there (took hate and died multiple times when no other healers did).

[zandervont]

Thank SE they nerfed medi2 potency a while back (2.1 or something).
Had a fun trial - ifrit hm today, was working on blm light farm. This one whm, timed his DS - medi2 right so that it hit after the tank shieldlobbed

[zandervont]

(Stupid phone not letting me edit) and then this hero of a wtfwhm continued to cure2 himself. Once tank had gotten agro, guess qhat. More medi2 spam ^^. Not just when the regen wears off, literally spamming medi2 with no pause.

[spaace]

If this is on tank bashing.. I like when tanks tunnel 1 mob.