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    The morale changes have effectively destroyed my PvP gear

    Before I go into detail, while my gear is fixable, it's going to take a LOT of money to do so. I already invested a large amount of gil into it and luckily not every piece has been effected, only a few of the left hand side.

    So, before the morale changes, there was only one additional secondary stat on each piece. With that, I had made some drastic melds to my gear using a total of 10 DET IV materias across the main pieces, not including the weapon. 3 of them give a stat bonus of +0 while 2 others give a stat bonus of less than 4, which means a grade III would be more suitable. Some give a +5 and so I would still like to have them socketed into the gear.

    However, due to the materia removal system, it's an all or nothing. Four of my pieces are affected as seen in the following images. It would be nice, for PvP gear, to have a materia removal system that allows materia to be removed one at a time, even if it was once off per piece due to the changes in the morale stat.

    Now, while the build looks very expensive, it's not as much as it seems. All of, if not most, of these were done before the novus stage of the relic had been announced and so materia prices were far lower. Due to Novus and i110 crafted gear, materia prices are extremely high.

    As far as this goes, getting a dev/community team response, my expectations are near to zero. Even with a response, something happening in my favour...next to zero (that is by no means an attack on them). If I can get some assistance, it would be appreciated.

    Gear images:



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    The introduction of the Rank 45 Liege sets already outdated your gear and all that Materia only had effect in unsynced level 50 Wolf's Den.

    Sorry, you misspent your money and you only have yourself to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    The introduction of the Rank 45 Liege sets already outdated your gear and all that Materia only had effect in unsynced level 50 Wolf's Den.

    Sorry, you misspent your money and you only have yourself to blame.
    Actually, I did this long ago. As I stated, before the announcement of Novus but unsure how much earlier, but earlier all the same. So while this precedes the liege set, it does not mean that it does then become entirely useless. You don't suddenly toss all your second coil gear before going into final coil just because it's out dated. It's use for progression. So the blame is not on me as it would be absurd to expect any player to foresee this change in such a distant future from the moment I had committed to it.

    While the materia effects take place only within the unsynced Wolves' Den matches, why should that suddenly dismiss the issue here? This is the PvP section of the forums and this is still a PvP related matter. You may not enjoy the Wolves' Den and that's down to your own personal preference, nothing to do with me.
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    Sorry for the waste. I hate it when patches make random changes which may screw a portion of people over while making a different portion undeservedly rich. Hopefully they won't have to make drastic changes like this to PvP gear in the future, at least.
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    U need to get 110 gears now tho, anyway right? xD
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    I just wanted to tell you... and?
    Nobody goes to the wolves den ... And believe me, I am the first heartbroken. So that your PvP gear is "destroyed", concretely, it changes what?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    U need to get 110 gears now tho, anyway right? xD
    I do ._. but I don't want the WAR i110 set just yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeleniaArgon View Post
    I just wanted to tell you... and?
    Nobody goes to the wolves den ... And believe me, I am the first heartbroken. So that your PvP gear is "destroyed", concretely, it changes what?



    Sieghilde Schtauffen
    Really? Nobody goes? I guess when the DF pops, and it does pop, I am getting matches with bots. It effects me mainly financially. I could resocket the materia, and doing some of the DET IV wouldn't be too much of a problem because it would be 100% but it means going into materia that won't hit the 100% chances. I had a setup catering to how the gear used to work but now they changed it and put me at a loss. While I can't be sure, I wouldn't be surprised if others have experienced this loss.

    While I have no doubt that nothing will be done about this right now, it would be nice if it is at least taken into consideration should they make any future changes to gear.
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    i feel your pain lol i grinded out to 40 and spent about 15mil in melds for my drg set and its just a waste now lol, i was preparing to destroy people in FL but that never happened , i gave up on pvp after this patch will get to r45 but wont grind and meld like i use to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    Actually, I did this long ago. As I stated, before the announcement of Novus but unsure how much earlier, but earlier all the same. So while this precedes the liege set, it does not mean that it does then become entirely useless. You don't suddenly toss all your second coil gear before going into final coil just because it's out dated. It's use for progression. So the blame is not on me as it would be absurd to expect any player to foresee this change in such a distant future from the moment I had committed to it.
    And your Bearsmaw stuff is still usable in i80 sync PvP. (The Belt is still what could be considered "BiS" for Warrior in i80 sync) All that happened was that your super melds are no longer super. That is the complaint you are making. Considering the timeline you are stating, your gear was devalued only a month or two after you did it with 2.3's introduction of Frontlines and ilevelsync.

    While the materia effects take place only within the unsynced Wolves' Den matches, why should that suddenly dismiss the issue here? This is the PvP section of the forums and this is still a PvP related matter. You may not enjoy the Wolves' Den and that's down to your own personal preference, nothing to do with me.
    I do enjoy wolf's den. I was a regular participant in my server's "friendlies" and also tend to be one of the ones who getting things running when interest in them occurs, but I also understand that the developers did not intend for players to meld secondary stat Materia into PvP gear. They intended for players to meld in the Status Resistance Materia introduced with the PvP gear.
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    There was another thread similar to this in which I pointed out:

    Your equipment now is stronger than it was before. Yes, some of your previously-useful materia is now granting +0 of a stat, but your gear's overall stats have increased, with the source of that being the base stat of the gear instead of the materia. You didn't actually lose anything; it was, in fact, a gain. Why would anyone complain about that?
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