Advice on 4 star recipes for weaver

[Lebenoshl]

First of all two things.

1) Innovation is criminally underrated. If Rapid Synthesis and Reclaim were the underrated skills of 2.3, Innovation is most underrated skill of 2.4. If anyone complains they can't get 100% on 4* crafts without hitting a good, I can immediately tell they dropped innovation. I cannot stress how important this skill is as a cross class.

2) Ingenuity II is utterly horrible on four star crafts. You get a tiny bit more progress and it is a horribly inefficient use of CP.

Your masterbook 2 will be your introduction to four star crafting. The difference between the masterbook rotation and the 4* rotation is that the 4* rotation you skip ingenuity 2.

[Mishini_Dracoto]

First of all two things.

1) Innovation is criminally underrated. If Rapid Synthesis and Reclaim were the underrated skills of 2.3, Innovation is most underrated skill of 2.4. If anyone complains they can't get 100% on 4* crafts without hitting a good, I can immediately tell they dropped innovation. I cannot stress how important this skill is as a cross class.

2) Ingenuity II is utterly horrible on four star crafts. You get a tiny bit more progress and it is a horribly inefficient use of CP.

Your masterbook 2 will be your introduction to four star crafting. The difference between the masterbook rotation and the 4* rotation is that the 4* rotation you skip ingenuity 2.

Are you using any rotations listed on he Forums? You have peaked my interest if nothing else. IE, are you using Innovation on BB, or all touch actions? I'm going to search for your posts on the forums after lunch and see if I can find what you are doing. I haven't done much 4* crafting mind you, as I don't have a Supra yet. I know it's not necessary, but I'd like the extra CP I'd get from no eating craft food.

[Lebenoshl]

Are you using any rotations listed on he Forums? You have peaked my interest if nothing else. IE, are you using Innovation on BB, or all touch actions? I'm going to search for your posts on the forums after lunch and see if I can find what you are doing. I haven't done much 4* crafting mind you, as I don't have a Supra yet. I know it's not necessary, but I'd like the extra CP I'd get from no eating craft food.

Keep in mind two things: there is a rapid synthesis method that is mathematically higher % HQ chance, however I don't have the cross class space for it. I take 11 skills and use them for all crafts of any difficulty so I don't have to worry about switching or finding out halfway through a craft I forgot something.

This is my guide for 4* Turn ins http://i.imgur.com/H1FkdFL.png

4* Crafts are the exact same thing. However don't use ingenuity II. (This means in the BB Fish section you need 32 less CP for each rotation)

[LauMihli]

2) Ingenuity II is utterly horrible on four star crafts. You get a tiny bit more progress and it is a horribly inefficient use of CP.

if you do PxP twice, a rapid synth and a crafeul synth prior to your mastermend 2 then based on ToTT, ING2 is not only an extra step that will get you a excellent or good proc but also will increase your BB and is the determining factor on whether or not you can finish @ 5/80 or 10/80 with a careful 2. i try to stay above 128 cp so i can begin my SH1 > GS > Inno > ING2 > BB @ 20/80 or 15/80 as opposed to 30 like you are obviously doing by dropping ING 2. Since I've come across Xash10X's rotation(YouTube this person if you haven't already) I'm about 80% successful if not higher on mats and I have yet to NQ a piece of gear. Soo idk what else you would have? lol reclaim? anyway just my opinion. And for anyone struggling check into Xash10X on YouTube. Great crafter..
Cheers~

[RiceisNice]

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A Standard Synthesis gives more than a CSII + Ingeunity II. Ingeunity still doesn't buff enough to justify a whooping 32 CP cost; it'd only give an extra turn to fish (something that could be done instead with observe or a CSII if you're gonna need 2 to finish a craft).

And also, Xashi10x's video doesn't do anything different from anyone else in this topic...heck he only got up to 38% HQ rate because RNG wasn't good on his end (And still HQ'd it, meanwhile I'm constantly getting NQ's on 82% >_>)

I stopped using manipulation and instead opt for MMII, mainly because I can't fit it into my cross skills anymore and MMII is more efficient CP/durability-wise.
WN on the other hand, I find myself using only if I have the CP to spare from TotT.