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    Ah ok. Acc>crit/det afterall, xD

    Hard to imagine wanting to use the ironworks chest. Wouldn't melded kirimu coat be better?
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    Reimi Namikaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Ah ok. Acc>crit/det afterall, xD

    Hard to imagine wanting to use the ironworks chest. Wouldn't melded kirimu coat be better?
    If you can shell out a few $$$ than ya
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    Wouldnt the Kirimu boots of aiming be better than poetics with Crit4->det4>det3->det3->det3 in them?
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinceTaru View Post
    Wouldnt the Kirimu boots of aiming be better than poetics with Crit4->det4>det3->det3->det3 in them?
    Crafted IL110 beats the Ironworks IL120, but again once you start getting some Dreadwyrm accessories, which means that you have to drop those Vit IV melded IL90 accessories, you need to have your Armor pieces upgrades to fill up the HP void. If not T12 and T13 will rekt you.

    Purchasing armor isn't really about just the present. You have to look at your party's progression speed, current needs and how it will play out in the near future.
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    What do you think of this set up?

    Dreadwyrm Longbow
    Augmented Ironworks Mask Of Aiming
    Kirimu Coat (Pentameld, 6 DET, 36 CRIT)
    Augmented Ironworks Vambraces Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Belt Of Aiming
    Dreadwyrm Breeches Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Leg Guards Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Choker Of Aiming
    Dreadwyrm Earring Of Aiming
    Dreadwyrm Bracelet Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Ring Of Aiming
    Ironworks Ring Of Aiming
    Black Truffle Risotto


    -11 Dex, -33 skill speed, +41 critical hit rate and +16 determination over building around the dreadwrym chest
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    What do you think of this set up?

    Dreadwyrm Longbow
    Augmented Ironworks Mask Of Aiming
    Kirimu Coat (Pentameld, 6 DET, 36 CRIT)
    Augmented Ironworks Vambraces Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Belt Of Aiming
    Dreadwyrm Breeches Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Leg Guards Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Choker Of Aiming
    Dreadwyrm Earring Of Aiming
    Dreadwyrm Bracelet Of Aiming
    Augmented Ironworks Ring Of Aiming
    Ironworks Ring Of Aiming
    Black Truffle Risotto


    -11 Dex, -33 skill speed, +41 critical hit rate and +16 determination over building around the dreadwrym chest
    Probably would work out, but again we don't have these items to test. If the poor scaling of BRD gears continues all the way up to IL130 levels, then 11 DEX isn't a lot of a loss, but then 16 DET isn't a good gain either. 41 CRIT is a non-off thing, and CRIT seems more to be tiered than linear, I have a feeling it is every 50 points. With your config it is only 594, and you are in severe accuracy deficiency at 51X.

    If you wanted to work with that you'd probably need to eat Lava Toad Legs.

    Alternatively you could drop the Dreadwyrm ring to the IL120 Ironworks ring for accuracy and use Black Truffle Risotto, you will have a flank 536 acc to work with with 608 CRIT and 355 DET.

    All too damn early to say though. But one thing is, both options of the IL130 chest pieces really sucked. Probably would use pentamelded Kirimu chest for the longest time, and hope that maybe the final installation of the Crystal Tower series drops an ACC/CRIT chest piece
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  8. #17
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    You do have 536 accuracy with that set up.

    645 dexterity, 536 accuracy, 603 critical hit rate, 362 determination and 341 skill speed

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OII9
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    Last edited by LunarEmerald; 11-18-2014 at 06:14 PM.

  9. #18
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You do have 536 accuracy with that set up.

    645 dexterity, 536 accuracy, 603 critical hit rate, 362 determination and 341 skill speed

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OII9
    My bad, IDK why I read it as Dreadwrym ring lol.
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  10. #19
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    Rinchan Nau
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    First thing I got after the weapon was the ring. My upgrade path will sort of vary depending on when I can get carbontwine and carboncoat upgrade items. But I am looking at either the neck, belt, or head next. The feet would be an immediate option if I didn't have the Dreadwyrm ones. Really it's just wait and see what coil loot drops each week and go from there.

    If you really stack the i110 body and spend millions it may be very slightly better than the i130 options, but you can't ignore the usefulness of vit and def/mdef. That vit and def will be crucial for savage FCoB and potentially in the new 3.0 raid too. No real idea what changes there will be to gear with the new level cap in 3.0.

    I have two BiS lists currently. The only thing that changes between them is the body and hands. They are almost equally good. One is just less dependent on rng. No coil BRD body or hands have dropped for me yet! Maybe soon.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OJPP
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OJPT

    Edit: Please also note that if 2.5 brings i110 crafted accessories I am likely to switch to those for everything except the bracelet.
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    Last edited by RinchanNau; 11-21-2014 at 02:50 AM.

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    Yeap, which part to buy next always depends on what drop you have for the week.

    And yeah, IL110 crafted accessories for savage!
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