You have made enough money to move the NA/EU servers

[Illya]

Wow, just wow. I cant even fathom how off canter your post is.

1. a majority of datacenters ARE located in remote areas (Mohave desert houses about 40% of them)

2. Blizzard has TONS of issues with their datacenters. Its the entire reason why they need TWO datacenters to do ONE job. blizzard datacenters go down at least 3 times a week due to interference issues, and have automatic failover to the other center. I'm pretty sure SE doesn't have the resources to create two $500 million dollar datacenters, just for SE. Different scale.

SE, why cant you create a dislike button! I want to take this person, and shove their character into T5 on their fisher class.

Blizzard operates an MMO with a population of over 7.5 million people, let's see you design a datacenter that never fails with that kind of capacity and demand. You're obviously an expert, just like that other guy. So you should have no issues calling Blizzard and offering your services to fix their datacenters, right?

But sure, let's just pretend that you're right and all datacenters that host MMOs are in remote locations. Oh wait. You're wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong, to literally no one's surprise.

World of Warcraft
Los Angeles, CA
Phoenix, AZ
Chicago, IL
New York City, NY

NCSoft titles (Guild Wars 2, Wildstar, Aion)
Dallas, TX

Star Wars: The Old Republic
San Francisco, CA
unknown location - possibly Virginia (East coast cluster)

The Lord of the Rings Online
Westwood, MA or Somerville, MA (near Boston, MA)

Tera
Chicago, IL

Rift
Dallas, TX

Star Trek Online
Boston, MA

EVE Online
London, UK

I could go on but you get the idea. A majority of the datacenters which host MMOs are in major cities. Maybe SE should create a dislike button just so people can dislike you instead. Also I haven't been in T5 since February, or whenever the patch that introduced SCoB was released.

[tocsin]

Petulant snip.

So, since you seem to have such an attitude, then you must also be an expert. You still havent answered my question. What do you think the cost is for a company to move a data center for a game that is already on life support bad enough to need a cash shop to a new location?

{Wrist Flick} {Stone Throw}

lol, I'll take that stone, if only because I dont like seeing people bullied.

[LlenCoram]

lol, I'll take that stone, if only because I dont like seeing people bullied.

Haha, I meant it as the attack one could use in T5. Back in 1.0, Wrist Flick and Stone Throw were gatherer skills. Wrist Flick gave a guaranteed Stun buff on your stone throw. Lots of fun.

[ReplicaX]

World of Warcraft
Los Angeles, CA
Phoenix, AZ
Chicago, IL
New York City, NY

NCSoft titles (Guild Wars 2, Wildstar, Aion)
Dallas, TX

Star Wars: The Old Republic
San Francisco, CA
unknown location - possibly Virginia (East coast cluster)

The Lord of the Rings Online
Westwood, MA or Somerville, MA (near Boston, MA)

Tera
Chicago, IL

Rift
Dallas, TX

Star Trek Online
Boston, MA

EVE Online
London, UK

All these locations are programmed into the Soviet Union's version of WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) Code named: Mikhail. To counter the Global threat of the US, Code named: Joshua.

Therefore all these locations are prone to Global Thermonuclear War.

This thread lacked poor dry humor in general. It now has poor dry humor with 80s references.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

All these locations are programmed into the Soviet Union's version of WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) Code named: Mikhail. To counter the Global threat of the US, Code named: Joshua.

Therefore all these locations are prone to Global Thermonuclear War.

This thread lacked poor dry humor in general. It now has poor dry humor with 80s references.

It wasn't funny to begin with.

[craig_meredith2003]

All these locations are programmed into the Soviet Union's version of WOPR (War Operation Plan Response) Code named: Mikhail. To counter the Global threat of the US, Code named: Joshua.

Therefore all these locations are prone to Global Thermonuclear War.

This thread lacked poor dry humor in general. It now has poor dry humor with 80s references.

War Games awesome movie.

[axemtitanium]

But sure, let's just pretend that you're right and all datacenters that host MMOs are in remote locations. Oh wait. You're wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong, to literally no one's surprise.

World of Warcraft
Los Angeles, CA
Phoenix, AZ
Chicago, IL
New York City, NY

NCSoft titles (Guild Wars 2, Wildstar, Aion)
Dallas, TX

Star Wars: The Old Republic
San Francisco, CA
unknown location - possibly Virginia (East coast cluster)

The Lord of the Rings Online
Westwood, MA or Somerville, MA (near Boston, MA)

Tera
Chicago, IL

Rift
Dallas, TX

Star Trek Online
Boston, MA

EVE Online
London, UK

WoW, that stunning bastion of uninterrupted connectivity. Most definitely a paragon to be emulated.

Also most of the cities you just named for other games (other than NYC and LA) qualify as fairly good places to hold your data center. Dallas and Chicago (there's a reason why they're spending millions of dollars planting fiber to go directly between Chicago and NYC) in particular are very good choices, as are Virginia and Boston. None of them are nearly as dense as New York and are of similar size and density as Montreal. Who said server farms need to be in remote locations, Mr. Straw Man? I merely said NYC is a particularly bad choice because of its incredibly high population density.

[Raist]

Blizzard operates an MMO with a population of over 7.5 million people, let's see you design a datacenter that never fails with that kind of capacity and demand. You're obviously an expert, just like that other guy. So you should have no issues calling Blizzard and offering your services to fix their datacenters, right?

But sure, let's just pretend that you're right and all datacenters that host MMOs are in remote locations. Oh wait. You're wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong, to literally no one's surprise.

World of Warcraft
Los Angeles, CA
Phoenix, AZ
Chicago, IL
New York City, NY

NCSoft titles (Guild Wars 2, Wildstar, Aion)
Dallas, TX

Star Wars: The Old Republic
San Francisco, CA
unknown location - possibly Virginia (East coast cluster)

The Lord of the Rings Online
Westwood, MA or Somerville, MA (near Boston, MA)

Tera
Chicago, IL

Rift
Dallas, TX

Star Trek Online
Boston, MA

EVE Online
London, UK

I could go on but you get the idea. A majority of the datacenters which host MMOs are in major cities. Maybe SE should create a dislike button just so people can dislike you instead. Also I haven't been in T5 since February, or whenever the patch that introduced SCoB was released.

Every one of those franchises has had players experience and complain over and over again about lag issues and disconnects. And you will frequently see the same names come up from those that have done their due diligence investigating the problems. TATA, Level3, and Cogent come up frequently from the states, and for other countries names like Telia, TiNet, B2/Orange... the bulk of them pointing to issues either around the exchanges or in between. Same problem, same scenario, same possible solutions were applied.

Also, nearly all of those cities listed routinely show up with problems when you look up various providers and statistics on the internet's health in general. So, in theory they all may seem like good ideas, but in practice (for the purpose of a centralized data center for this IP)... not necessarily such a good idea.

Here's a post I made a couple weeks back with links and images demonstrating the problems we are facing with our internet in general that is causing so much trouble with this and other services:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2567884

I strongly urge you guys to read the blog posts and some of the additional information linked both within the posts and the comments that follow them.... it may be quite an eye opener for some of you. Note that some of the images update periodically and show a psuedo-real-time snapshot of where problems are getting reported. Additional data/tools/maps have been posted in another fairly recent thread about connection issues, a large chunk in this post, but there's more discussion throughout the thread as well:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2577071

Pay close attention to the hot zones... note that the problems routinely get reported in the same areas, and a lot are either around or close to those same cities and thus would be impacting stability.