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  1. #1191
    Player
    Kuwaitum's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ivory Spirit
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    My main is White Mage (my only Lv.50 Job war/magic, iLevel 110 - all Lv.50 crafter), and I'm an active healer (never been on standby).

    My story is from a perspective of a Paladin. So I wanted to do my daily low level roulette as a Paladin, in very early hours I was grouped with a Rouge, a Thaumaturge, and a Whitemage. Since myself and (probably) the WHM disabled 'cut scene' we are waiting the other DPSs to finish them to engage into battle.

    As I waited, I casted StoneSkin on myslef (PLD), and WHM. The same time she (whm) casted Protection which only hit me & her, since DPSs CS didn't finish yet. when they were done, I casted SS on them and waited the whm to re-cast protection. 10 seconds no response. I said: "Hello", DPSs replied, but not the WHM.

    I pulled the first two mobs, I noticed the whm: 1. didn't cast protect, 2. didn't heal normally**, 3. her 'pose' changed as "idle".

    I asked her: "can you cast protect on the guys?", as I pulled the next group of mobs. Nope, nothing. I checked her character: WHM (only 50), with most gears from ST, legs and feet were Lv.55 (Green gears), Atma Thyrus. I wanted to dismiss her as a "Cheater" assuming she was a bot, because she tends to fix her position and don't move a lot. My attempt failed since at least 5 minutes should be gone before dismissing is available.

    After 5 minutes were done, I voted dismiss as "Harassment", both DPSs voted in favour, she's out. We are on DF again, and guess who is back?? The same WHM!! Then it struck me, she was doing the dungeon for books. She was idle as we waited, then after a minute or so she wrote: "Seriously!?" and she came by again.

    I asked her again: "Can you please cast protect on the THM & ROG?", she replied: "Are you dying?" (Meaning that its not necessary nor vital). So I replied: "with all my respect you're no better than a healing /follow healer", she said: "instead of wasting time, let's go". I said: "sure, I will go". I hit "Leave Duty".

    I'm a White Mage; I heal, support and monitor, and this person is a WHM of Lv.50, not a healer! I feel sorry for the DPSs, I never thought there are really jerk healers out there!

    ** a healer's job is healing, yes. The above Whitemage was idle most of time and ONLY healing if my HP drops to 15%, fill me up and stand idle again. If I weren't moving like a humming bird I would have 100% KO.

    If she don't want waste time, join on cleric. I hate myslef to be idle. I respect a WHM that let me die because he/she was fighting, or a WHM trying hard to over-heal, but NEVER a freaking idle-WHM.
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    Last edited by Kuwaitum; 11-20-2014 at 03:27 PM.

  2. #1192
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Character
    Senah Kha
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    On my femRoe alt, who mains scholar, my first run of Sastasha HM was with a paladin who stayed in Sword Oath. He said "If you can pull hate from me, I'll switch to Shield Oath." I think the DPS were a ninja and a black mage. He did put on Shield Oath for the bosses, though. So it's not really a horror story that much.
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  3. #1193
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    Defteros's Avatar
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    Italy
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    Character
    Derek Hale
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I was doing High Roulette with my scholar, and Hullbreaker Isle pops up.
    as soon as the dungeon starts i see the soldiery bonus message
    we get to the gorilla, one of the dps starts feeding him with ALL the bananas. at the same time.
    I try to heal as much as I can, but I get d/c while the gorilla has something like 5 stack xD
    everyone respawn at start of the dungeon, and then the drg starts saying "first time, guide us"
    well, kinda a bit late, but still xD
    I explain how the bosses works, but he still does the exact opposite of what I tell him.
    when we get to the kraken, I explain to move to another platform when he gets targeted by the tornado...
    NOPE.
    I spent the entire fight casting more raise then cures.
    it was like "oh, the drg is dead, I'll raise him" -->dragoon resurrected--->on another platform the Ninja got hit by another tornado---> raise the ninja---> oh look the drg is dead again--->raise--->uh, ninja's dead.
    it was actually kinda funny, but @___@
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  4. #1194
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwaitum View Post
    I feel sorry for the DPSs, I never thought there are really jerk healers out there!

    ** a healer's job is healing, yes. The above Whitemage was idle most of time and ONLY healing if my HP drops to 15%, fill me up and stand idle again.
    Wow... I do believe that would be a sort of 'wtfwhm' right there... it doesn't even sound like they knew what Protect even did. 'Idlewhm'. xD

    There are most definitely jerk healers out there .... I came out of a trial with one not too long ago (I was on WHM also, so it was my fellow healer). After the trial was beaten, they proceeded to condescendingly start lecturing a SMN not to heal, because it was 'not their place for their little 200 heals' and so on.
    I honestly didn't notice the SMN healing much (I was too focused on the broader view of the party's HP). If he was doing nothing but healing, then that's a little weird - maybe a little annoying at a loss of DPS.... but I don't think the choice of words the other healer used, and continued to use, were necessary.

    People are people...
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    Last edited by Saseal; 11-20-2014 at 04:44 PM.

  5. #1195
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    DarkmoonVael's Avatar
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    Darkmoon Vael
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SummonerSenah View Post
    On my femRoe alt, who mains scholar, my first run of Sastasha HM was with a paladin who stayed in Sword Oath. He said "If you can pull hate from me, I'll switch to Shield Oath." I think the DPS were a ninja and a black mage. He did put on Shield Oath for the bosses, though. So it's not really a horror story that much.
    Its weird when tanks do this. Shield oath reduces incoming damage by 20%, giving you as a healer far more opportunities to dps. Quite often, the tank is reducing overall dps if they are not in their tank stance since the pressure on the healer to just heal is increased significantly. O.o.

    Anyway my horror story, farming turn 4 for allagan mats, get a tank who is clearly spiritbonding gear, NQ crafted armour, their defence was slightly higher than my whm. Would have been fine if this wasnt coupled with their ego which said "i must MT". Dreads bascially murdered them so bad i was chain casting cure 2's all the time.
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 11-20-2014 at 06:06 PM.

  6. #1196
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Character
    Mi An
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    My horror stories happens at almost every duty I get on low level.

    As a WHM, when duty starts and a millisecond after, another class start casting stoneskin or protect, is quite upsetting, because I feel like I had being paired with people do not know anything of other classes. WHM's Stoneskin and Protect are enhanced versus any other job, but not, they will not want to know nor understand it. Cast it away, you wasting your time as long I will cast mine, that obviously override yours.

    Not to mention, when duty gets me as SCH in Tam-Tara low, and will put on my Cleric Stance, people still waiting I will cast Protect too. Guess why I don't cast it, dudes.

    What makes it worse, is those things happening even with dudes in their 50 on multiple jobs. I guess they had FATE-ran all of them without bother how their jobs works.
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  7. #1197
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    Spoekes's Avatar
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    Spoekes Magica
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Where is this even a horror story?

    The first thing is beeing picky about smth that has no detrimental effect at all...

    The second is beeing an elitist who thinks everyone must know all classes in the second dungeon the game has to offer...
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  8. #1198
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    The detrimental effect is me having bashed because I don't cast Protect on Tam-Tara, and the long wait at start with everyone silent, that I suppose they really are waiting for it, but no one bothers to say that.

    Then, isn't that other people doing your job something like "you lazy, I have to do it" message? Even I tell them about that, I got silence as answer. not horror? Lets call it "creepy" then

    The real horror is when you get tanks that holds aggro so well, that you agro the full map at your first heal.
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  9. #1199
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    Spoekes's Avatar
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    Spoekes Magica
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Yeah these silent players can be creepy sometimes ^^
    For that protect in TamTara you could just write you ain't got it xskilled to shorten the wait :P
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  10. #1200
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    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I haven't had any healing horror stories since coming back to the game. I played for a little bit after launch on a lv50 scholar. This time around I'm a 44 white mage. On my first character the game was new and I had a ton of stupid PUGs. This time around I've had nothing but competent groups in all the dungeons up to level 44. I actually had to yell at my last tank for being too good. All it took was regen except on the bosses. God I was bored.

    Edit: I take it back. I just had my first one. I was doing Wanderer's Palace. The tank couldn't hold agro. He eventually declares that the next person who "pulls" gets to tank. The tank was "pulling" things by running past them. One time he did that with my regen still on him from the last fight. Of course that makes some of them agro me since he hasn't even touched them. I have to heal myself to stay alive and of course they all agro me then. The tank sits there and watches me die. Then party chat goes something like this.

    Me: WTF?!
    Tank: I told you people not to do anything while I pull.
    Me: I didn't, retard. I was dying and had to heal myself because you let me get agro.
    Tank: Whatever n00b. *ragequits*
    DPS: Wow, that guy really sucked.
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    Last edited by Vorpal_Spork; 11-26-2014 at 03:45 PM.

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