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    Vodomir Daemaethor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    I ask for evidence in equivalent gear on a mnk because the good ones I know cap out at the same dps as me even with 2 i130 gear pcs.

    For reference, 3 pcs of i110 crafted seem to add about 30 dps to drg and potions on cd a slight increase.
    Well, here's what you ask for:

    Monk doing 517 in iLvl 110 (neither buff food nor party buff)
    Monk doing 490-500 DPS
    Ninja doing 520 DPS in iLvl 110 (watch the DPS meter for the first 20 seconds, he's near the 600 mark, so burst isn't like worlds apart)

    You said that you pushed 500+ DPS prior to Shiva bracelet and crafted gear and without spending any poetics ... but you merely showed like 465 ... compared to MNK/NIN we are seeing a difference of more than 50 DPS, which is more than a 10% increase over your parse. You really think DRG doesn't need a DPS buff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    As far as monk, drg is much closer in dps that people think. Saying they are separated by a 40-50 dps gap is simply inaccurate is all I am saying.
    You are more than incorrect here, as proven by the videos above.
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    Last edited by Vodomir; 11-20-2014 at 05:31 AM.
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    Verus Oneshot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    Well, here's what you ask for:

    Monk doing 517 in iLvl 110 (neither buff food nor party buff)
    Monk doing 490-500 DPS
    Ninja doing 520 DPS in iLvl 110 (watch the DPS meter for the first 20 seconds, he's near the 600 mark, so burst isn't like worlds apart)

    You said that you pushed 500+ DPS prior to Shiva bracelet and crafted gear and without spending any poetics ... but you merely showed like 465 ... compared to MNK/NIN we are seeing a difference of more than 50 DPS, which is more than a 10% increase over your parse. You really think DRG doesn't need a DPS buff?
    Yes in t8 factoring in goads on top of trick attack with selene and I was able to reach 500. From the videos posted, I agree that a dps increase on drg would be nice, however if drg is buffed to overcompensate for lack of utility as other have said then in certain cases it would make things difficult in regards to threat issues. If drg could sustain higher dps than monk in a long drawn out fight initial burst would easily have to reach 1k unless the class is completely reworked. Yes I realize there is a disparity in dps but it has to be looked at closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    Yes in t8 factoring in goads on top of trick attack with selene and I was able to reach 500. From the videos posted, I agree that a dps increase on drg would be nice, however if drg is buffed to overcompensate for lack of utility as other have said then in certain cases it would make things difficult in regards to threat issues. If drg could sustain higher dps than monk in a long drawn out fight initial burst would easily have to reach 1k unless the class is completely reworked. Yes I realize there is a disparity in dps but it has to be looked at closely.
    That sounds much more reasonable than your original opening post and some of the stuff you claimed afterwards.
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    Yan Dere
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Verus View Post
    Yes in t8 factoring in goads on top of trick attack with selene and I was able to reach 500. From the videos posted, I agree that a dps increase on drg would be nice, however if drg is buffed to overcompensate for lack of utility as other have said then in certain cases it would make things difficult in regards to threat issues. If drg could sustain higher dps than monk in a long drawn out fight initial burst would easily have to reach 1k unless the class is completely reworked. Yes I realize there is a disparity in dps but it has to be looked at closely.
    My initial burst is like 800-900 with a ninja trick attack and I have not had any issues pulling hate against a tank with i115 weapons. To be fair, I usually wait a gcd for the boss to be pulled into position or turned anyways.
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Cuchulainn
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    My initial burst is like 800-900 with a ninja trick attack and I have not had any issues pulling hate against a tank with i115 weapons. To be fair, I usually wait a gcd for the boss to be pulled into position or turned anyways.
    I would like to know what you're doing, and what your gear is please.

    8-900 is really pretty high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    I would like to know what you're doing, and what your gear is please.

    8-900 is really pretty high.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5478795/
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    My initial burst is like 800-900 with a ninja trick attack and I have not had any issues pulling hate against a tank with i115 weapons. To be fair, I usually wait a gcd for the boss to be pulled into position or turned anyways.
    Yes exactly. All good drg have to wait that global or they will pull. Very nice gear btw, I should be right there with you but real life for 8 ppl during holidays gets hectic.
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