If DRG does in fact get a buff...

[Verus]

The DRGs worth their salt will rip aggro on pull 100% of the time and people will rage for an enmity buff. You can't expect a DRG to burn elusive jump on the pull because of aggro issues. The most DRG will need is a slight mdef buff or hp buff, 5% at most. DRG currently can push 500+ dps easily and in a raid situation with a NIN and Selene they can easily surpass 520 or more.

In addition, it feels very ignorant to complain about most DRGs having bad damage when 90% or more of the player base are terrible at the class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8DuslkCeUE
This video shows i110 dps with food buff for 3 min. I assure the damage can be sustained as long as needed provided tp uptime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLPi...ature=youtu.be
My personal raid build i111 using full bonus of food and potions with tp management.

[Vodomir]

I'd like to see just one DRG who is/was able to push 500+ DPS at all (not even speaking of 'easily') in iLvl 110 with either HA or Nexus weapon (of course DRG can now push higher with iLvl 120 - 135 weapons and overall gearscores over 110). And just to clarify, we are speaking of the DPS after the encounter has ended (e.g. T8) or after your TP have run dry and invigorate is on CD), as a DRG may of course burst for well above 500 DPS, but you can't sustain that level of DPS, whilst NIN and MNK can.

[Verus]

I push 500 dps consistently now after 3.5 min dps checks. In a fight like t8 I recently got around 510 with NIN doing TA. This was before I had shiva bracelet and crafted gear. Havent spent any poetics yet, and I use Nexus crit/det build.

[Eardstapa]

If you are looking for sustained DPS, you must check at 5 minutes, if you are looking at before mechanic DPS, check 3 minutes. Any Monk worth their weight will hit 540 with party buffs after 4 minutes in full i110, and if they are using penta melded i110... It will be around 560.

[Vodomir]

Any form of proof for consistently pushing 500 DPS in said gear (no melded 110 gear, no iLvl 120+ gear)? Like a video where you open the character screen midfight during the parse? Otherwise I'm pushing 600 DPS with Zenit Gae Bolg in Darklight gear in a fight like T9. Posting bold statements is one thing, but you need to back it up, especially if your claims are far off from what other top DRGs can achieve (not claiming to belong to these circles myself, but from reading these forums, looking on youtube, reddit and searching the internet I couldn't find any single DRG to even be close to those numbers in regular iLvl 110 gear). So you either are the UBER-DRG or your numbers aren't quite correct.

[Chrisbox]

Wtf did I just read? If DRG was as high and mighty as you're making it out to be top tier FC's would actually want you over the other melee jobs. Good dragoon bad dragoon does't even matter, A skill capped DRG is not ending above a nin/mnk that knows what they're doing on dps. You also supplied no parses what so ever in a thread like this, not that it matters because its common sense to most people at this point that DRG is the weakest melee dps in terms of overall dps.

[Shneibel]

w/e buff for DRG will be waste of resource, they always die !

[Ihm]

w/e buff for DRG will be waste of resource, they always die !

Top keks. I like your character, let's get married.

The DRGs worth their salt will rip aggro on pull 100% of the time and people will rage for an enmity buff. You can't expect a DRG to burn elusive jump on the pull because of aggro issues. The most DRG will need is a slight mdef buff or hp buff, 5% at most. DRG currently can push 500+ dps easily and in a raid situation with a NIN and Selene they can easily surpass 520 or more.

In addition, it feels very ignorant to complain about most DRGs having bad damage when 90% or more of the player base are terrible at the class.

Based on your comment, that makes NIN and MNK the tank right? Since NIN and MNK do more damage than DRG already, so they must be the tanks, right?

[dday3six]

That really depends on what the buff is. If they buffed Dragoon's Maguc Defense no. If you lowered CD on say Jump and added some sort of better raid utility, not seeing it there either. The only situation they might is if they directly buff attack potency. However seeing as how SE would likely buff Full Thrust, Vorpol Thrust, and True Thrust if they did, and that is not the opening combo, I'm still not seeing it.

[Verus]

Any form of proof for consistently pushing 500 DPS in said gear (no melded 110 gear, no iLvl 120+ gear)? Like a video where you open the character screen midfight during the parse? Otherwise I'm pushing 600 DPS with Zenit Gae Bolg in Darklight gear in a fight like T9. Posting bold statements is one thing, but you need to back it up, especially if your claims are far off from what other top DRGs can achieve (not claiming to belong to these circles myself, but from reading these forums, looking on youtube, reddit and searching the internet I couldn't find any single DRG to even be close to those numbers in regular iLvl 110 gear). So you either are the UBER-DRG or your numbers aren't quite correct.

The big problem with most of the drg hate comes bad players and not knowing how to properly make an effective gear set. Most drg probably don't have much 2nd coil gear although that may change now with echo. A full Soldiery drg has way too much skill speed to be viable in a large number of fights. I've only found T6 savage so far to be effective for drg to have SS build. Crit is our main stat for i110.

As far as what everyone has been saying, yes, I should provide evidence. So tell me what would be the most effective fight to demonstrate dps. T8 with turning echo off? A video of a dummy parse? I'll work on making a video of something appropriate sometime tonite. However, I have not seen any proof of a mnk hitting 550+ in fights and it most likely isn't possible with i110 unless they have another mnk DK all the time.

http://i.imgur.com/PpJ1XMV.png?1
Average parse of t10 I believe this was a 1% wipe or something but this was average among our attempts. Did clear by the end of the night. DPS could be higher for me but with charge rng it can fluctuate.

Based on your comment, that makes NIN and MNK the tank right? Since NIN and MNK do more damage than DRG already, so they must be the tanks, right?

NIN and MNK do not have an initial burst like a DRG. We all know this. With a buff in attack potency it will make it easy for DRG to pull only at the beginning and potentially on add phases when they spawn.

That really depends on what the buff is. If they buffed Dragoon's Maguc Defense no. If you lowered CD on say Jump and added some sort of better raid utility, not seeing it there either. The only situation they might is if they directly buff attack potency. However seeing as how SE would likely buff Full Thrust, Vorpol Thrust, and True Thrust if they did, and that is not the opening combo, I'm still not seeing it.

Magic defense is our crutch as drg and a buff in that department would be most welcome.