Limsa Lominsa, Ferry Docks -- Text -- Ahldskyf's Incorrect Hyphenation -- "gods-sent"

[Fernehalwes]

Ohhhhhh, the /sarcasm command was turned ON. Gotcha

But seriously, at a glance, Roegadyn names can oft appear like a amalgam of seemingly random letters, pounded out by a starved monkey chained in front of a thrift store typewriter.

Ah, but that is where you are mistaken! There actually is a pattern!

...Unfortunately, no one has taken the time to properly explain that system to everyone, and for that an apology is owed. I've spoken with the man in charge of the game's lore, and we both agree that a detailed explanation of NPC naming conventions is long overdue. For now, I can give you a quick overview of Roegadyn names, and hopefully in the near future when we get a to a lull in our patch duties, I can put together something more fancy.

Roegadyn names are actually all formed from two words taken from the ancient Roegadyn language that the race's ancestors spoke before they came to Eorzea. For example, Ahldskyf is a combination of Ahld (meaning 'old') and Skyf (meaning ship). Rostnsthal is a combination of Rostn (rusty) and Sthal (steel). Pronunciation of the names can be a bit easier after splitting the name into its two parts: Ahld + skyf (read "ald-skiff").

Roegadyn Last names can appear even more imposing, but in fact, they follow rules similar to the first names. A last name simply takes the father's name and adds either Syn (meaning 'son') or Wyn (meaning 'daughter'). For example, Limsa Lominsa Admiral, Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn could be broken down like this:

Merl (sea) + wyb (wife)
Bloe (blue) + fhis (fish) + wyn (daughter)

In other words, "Sea Wife, daughter of Blue Fish"

You will see the "old language" used in a lot of Sea Wolf names. The Hellsguard, on the other hand, in an attempt to better adapt to Eorzea, sometimes choose to 'translate' their names from the old language, which is why you will, every now and then, see an NPC named Grizzly Gnat or Immodest Mouse.

I know this is just the tip of the iceberg, but I hope it helps. I'll try to provide more details when I can. Maybe we can even release a dictionary of known Old Roegadyn words.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

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Wow, this is very interesting. I can't believe how much thought you guys put into language and names.

[Lienn]

Ohhhhhh, the /sarcasm command was turned ON. Gotcha

But seriously, at a glance, Roegadyn names can oft appear like a amalgam of seemingly random letters, pounded out by a starved monkey chained in front of a thrift store typewriter.

Ah, but that is where you are mistaken! There actually is a pattern!

...Unfortunately, no one has taken the time to properly explain that system to everyone, and for that an apology is owed. I've spoken with the man in charge of the game's lore, and we both agree that a detailed explanation of NPC naming conventions is long overdue. For now, I can give you a quick overview of Roegadyn names, and hopefully in the near future when we get a to a lull in our patch duties, I can put together something more fancy.

Roegadyn names are actually all formed from two words taken from the ancient Roegadyn language that the race's ancestors spoke before they came to Eorzea. For example, Ahldskyf is a combination of Ahld (meaning 'old') and Skyf (meaning ship). Rostnsthal is a combination of Rostn (rusty) and Sthal (steel). Pronunciation of the names can be a bit easier after splitting the name into its two parts: Ahld + skyf (read "ald-skiff").

Roegadyn Last names can appear even more imposing, but in fact, they follow similar rules as the first names. A last name simply takes the father's name and adds either Syn (meaning 'son') or Wyn (meaning 'daughter'). For example, Limsa Lominsa Admiral, Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn could be broken down like this:

Merl (sea) + wyb (wife)
Bloe (blue) + fhis (fish) + wyn (daughter)

In other words, "Sea Wife, daughter of Blue Fish"

You will see the "old language" used in a lot of Sea Wolf names. The Hellsguard, on the other hand, in an attempt to better adapt to Eorzea, sometimes choose to 'translate' their names from the old language, which is why you will, every now and then, see an NPC named Grizzly Gnat or Immodest Mouse.

I know this is just the tip of the iceberg, but I hope it helps. I'll try to provide more details when I can. Maybe we can even release a dictionary of known Old Roegadyn words.

Very interesting explanation! Thanks! ^^

Also its worth saying that these names kinda follow the FFXI patterns, having Sea Wolves with their "galkan name" and Hellsguard their "bastokan name". Also, its interesting to see that Roe's name are might sound like a drunk dude speaking the translated word...like "Rostn" for rusty or "Sthal" for steel.

Similar pattern can be seen at lalafells, where Plainfolk have the male name pattern from FFXI and dunefolk the female pattern from FFXI.

Miqo'tes have Keeper of moon having FFXI pattern and Seeker of sun having the apostrophe after first letter.

For elezen, though, i noticed no difference...they all seems to have french name. Same from Hyurs...only difference i can see is highlanders having "arabian" names like Al Zahbi NPCs...would love hearing about elezen and hyur pattern differences too! (Pleeeeease! @_@)

But back to roes, if lodestone ever add a game codex would be nice having a roe ancient language dictionary. ^^

[Sav]

But back to roes, if lodestone ever add a game codex would be nice having a roe ancient language dictionary. ^^

*cough* Or!...put one in an in-game library in Ishgard *cough*

[Lienn]

*cough* Or!...put one in an in-game library in Ishgard *cough*

Even better! ^^ I would love this kind of lore content, just like we have those elemental/deities basics at CON and THM guilds. Would be awesome we having a real library there where we could find the lore behind everything ingame from races, nations, clans, deities, religions, sects, elements, battle styles, attribute effects, notorious NPCs, monster bestiary, etc...from lore to gameplay, from pure curiosity stuff to extremely useful content.

I would love seeing this indeed!

[Platinumstorm]

Ohhhhhh, the /sarcasm command was turned ON. Gotcha

But seriously, at a glance, Roegadyn names can oft appear like a amalgam of seemingly random letters, pounded out by a starved monkey chained in front of a thrift store typewriter.

Ah, but that is where you are mistaken! There actually is a pattern!

...Unfortunately, no one has taken the time to properly explain that system to everyone, and for that an apology is owed. I've spoken with the man in charge of the game's lore, and we both agree that a detailed explanation of NPC naming conventions is long overdue. For now, I can give you a quick overview of Roegadyn names, and hopefully in the near future when we get a to a lull in our patch duties, I can put together something more fancy.

Roegadyn names are actually all formed from two words taken from the ancient Roegadyn language that the race's ancestors spoke before they came to Eorzea. For example, Ahldskyf is a combination of Ahld (meaning 'old') and Skyf (meaning ship). Rostnsthal is a combination of Rostn (rusty) and Sthal (steel). Pronunciation of the names can be a bit easier after splitting the name into its two parts: Ahld + skyf (read "ald-skiff").

Roegadyn Last names can appear even more imposing, but in fact, they follow rules similar to the first names. A last name simply takes the father's name and adds either Syn (meaning 'son') or Wyn (meaning 'daughter'). For example, Limsa Lominsa Admiral, Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn could be broken down like this:

Merl (sea) + wyb (wife)
Bloe (blue) + fhis (fish) + wyn (daughter)

In other words, "Sea Wife, daughter of Blue Fish"

You will see the "old language" used in a lot of Sea Wolf names. The Hellsguard, on the other hand, in an attempt to better adapt to Eorzea, sometimes choose to 'translate' their names from the old language, which is why you will, every now and then, see an NPC named Grizzly Gnat or Immodest Mouse.

I know this is just the tip of the iceberg, but I hope it helps. I'll try to provide more details when I can. Maybe we can even release a dictionary of known Old Roegadyn words.

Why do the Sea Wolves and Hellsguard use the same language and naming conventions if they are from completely different areas/backgrounds?

Also, seeing Grizzly Gnat is really hard to digest, as well as names that seem like random letters. I don't know if you want to change that entirely, but it's just a thought.

[Fernehalwes]

Why do the Sea Wolves and Hellsguard use the same language and naming conventions if they are from completely different areas/backgrounds?

Good question! The Sea Wolf and Hellsguard clans both share common ancestors in the northern islands from which they came. The Sea Wolves tend to adhere to the ancient traditions, customs, and language of those islands while the Hellsguard are more prone to adapt to their surroundings. That said, the lines between the two clans aren't set in stone, and you will find some Hellsguard have chosen to use the Old Language in their names, and some Sea Wolves have given themselves "translated" names.

[Munba]

...Unfortunately, no one has taken the time to properly explain that system to everyone, and for that an apology is owed. I've spoken with the man in charge of the game's lore, and we both agree that a detailed explanation of NPC naming conventions is long overdue. For now, I can give you a quick overview of Roegadyn names, and hopefully in the near future when we get a to a lull in our patch duties, I can put together something more fancy.

It's really a pity to not know all these details in some forms. I would love if devs would put this kind of lore in game in the future. Some could be added in particular quests and some could be put in some books and writings you have to find around Eorzea (like in some libraries in the cities/villages or in some lost ancient ruins). And you could collect some of them (rewards or drops) and put it in your personal library -housing stuff- eheh. I think it would be neat to have.
(i'm an hardcore Lore lover if you didn't notice lol)

[Rhomagus]

It's really a pity to not know all these details in some forms. I would love if devs would put this kind of lore in game in the future. Some could be added in particular quests and some could be put in some books and writings you have to find around Eorzea (like in some libraries in the cities/villages or in some lost ancient ruins). And you could collect some of them (rewards or drops) and put it in your personal library -housing stuff- eheh. I think it would be neat to have.
(i'm an hardcore Lore lover if you didn't notice lol)

I'm right there with you. At first I was absolutely astonished that we got a community team response on a lore subject. I'm excited to see the new information, but, I'd also like access to that information via the game itself. There seems to be little if any lore differences between the races in game besides the descriptions they have.

[Wynn]

Ohhhhhh, the /sarcasm command was turned ON. Gotcha

But seriously, at a glance, Roegadyn names can oft appear like a amalgam of seemingly random letters, pounded out by a starved monkey chained in front of a thrift store typewriter.

Ah, but that is where you are mistaken! There actually is a pattern!

...Unfortunately, no one has taken the time to properly explain that system to everyone, and for that an apology is owed. I've spoken with the man in charge of the game's lore, and we both agree that a detailed explanation of NPC naming conventions is long overdue. For now, I can give you a quick overview of Roegadyn names, and hopefully in the near future when we get a to a lull in our patch duties, I can put together something more fancy.

Roegadyn names are actually all formed from two words taken from the ancient Roegadyn language that the race's ancestors spoke before they came to Eorzea. For example, Ahldskyf is a combination of Ahld (meaning 'old') and Skyf (meaning ship). Rostnsthal is a combination of Rostn (rusty) and Sthal (steel). Pronunciation of the names can be a bit easier after splitting the name into its two parts: Ahld + skyf (read "ald-skiff").

Roegadyn Last names can appear even more imposing, but in fact, they follow rules similar to the first names. A last name simply takes the father's name and adds either Syn (meaning 'son') or Wyn (meaning 'daughter'). For example, Limsa Lominsa Admiral, Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn could be broken down like this:

Merl (sea) + wyb (wife)
Bloe (blue) + fhis (fish) + wyn (daughter)

In other words, "Sea Wife, daughter of Blue Fish"

You will see the "old language" used in a lot of Sea Wolf names. The Hellsguard, on the other hand, in an attempt to better adapt to Eorzea, sometimes choose to 'translate' their names from the old language, which is why you will, every now and then, see an NPC named Grizzly Gnat or Immodest Mouse.

I know this is just the tip of the iceberg, but I hope it helps. I'll try to provide more details when I can. Maybe we can even release a dictionary of known Old Roegadyn words.

I love this kind of stuff. We need more! Next I want to know about the Miqo, Elezen, and lala. Please and thank you. ^^

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