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  1. #31
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    Hinty's Avatar
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    Hinty Kiri
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 60
    I don't like going full STR accessories in random groups because I have no idea how good/comfortable the healers are with the fight. For HM primals and certain dungeons? Sure why not. But there's no need to put extra stress on the healers who still might be learning the fight for a small boost in dps.

    Unless you're really undergeared you don't need STR accessories to keep hate. If you do then you're doing something wrong...
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  2. #32
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    melflomil's Avatar
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    I put my 30 Stats in strength and all VIT accessories. Right now I only have shiva bracelate of slaying because the stats are too good.
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  3. #33
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    MythToken's Avatar
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    STR is fine, but you have to be aware of the fight and the group. Shiva is a fight in which your extra STR probably will not do a whole lot. Since you will be mainly focusing on not dying and tanks swapping and positioning, ect. Your DPS uptime is limited.

    But anyone who doesnt understand the value of STR and what it brings to the group on WAR is misinformed. Pure VIT is not the answer. I do Shiva in full STR gear, except shiva tank bracelet since it dropped and is an upgrade. 15/15 for spec too.
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  4. #34
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    Stox Diamond
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hinty View Post
    I don't like going full STR accessories in random groups because I have no idea how good/comfortable the healers are with the fight. For HM primals and certain dungeons? Sure why not. But there's no need to put extra stress on the healers who still might be learning the fight for a small boost in dps.

    Unless you're really undergeared you don't need STR accessories to keep hate. If you do then you're doing something wrong...
    This is the right answer, it's not about whether or not WAR should go VIT or STR, it's about what encounter you are doing, and what players you are playing with. TBH I would be uncomfortable with the OP's amount of VIT unless I knew the healers were absolutely capable of handling it. You can't really point fingers when you have less than 9K HP in defiance in the latest EX Primal.

    Suck it up and just go VIT, the 10-20 DPS you lose by forgoing STR accessories isn't worth it considering you are dying and the raid wipes. Your DPS increase isn't going to make or break the run. You can't expect your healers to play perfectly in a PUG. If you had pentamelded i90 accessories I'd say you have an argument, but if you're using slaying...

    This isn't a VIT vs STR argument. The fact of the matter is you have less VIT than the healers are comfortable with and it's causing wipes. It's as much your problem as it is the healer's.
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  5. #35
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Only fights where full VIT gear as a main tank will come in handy is final coil, T9, and Ramuh EX. Everything else can be tanked with full DPS accessories.
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    Last edited by Danbo05; 11-19-2014 at 12:58 AM.

  6. #36
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    Only fights where full VIT gear as a main tank will come in handy is final coil, T9, and Ramuh EX. Everything else can be tanked with full DPS accessories.

    T9 just depends on your healers. Full STR was NP close to 2.4 and almost all MTs at least used Ruby/Topaz.

    T10-11 is just fine in Ruby/Topaz.

    T9-11 8k HP is more then enough for PLDs and 9500 is more then enough for WARs.

    Ramuh we always did with 2 full STR WARs. Solo tanking you'd want full VIT.

    I won't be buying any of the VIT poetic right side gear, once my left side is i120-130 I'll be getting the DPS accessories.
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  7. #37
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    Kossuranta's Avatar
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    Kossu Blackthorne
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    Only fights where full VIT gear as a main tank will come in handy is final coil, T9, and Ramuh EX. Everything else can be tanked with full DPS accessories.
    Ramuh EX doesn't hit too hard on tank when people collect orbs that are not needed. Shiva will hit harder atleast with bow and always gotta remember that when going with randoms there are pretty much always DPS/Healers making mistakes so would go full VIT unless full group.
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  8. #38
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    Bashum Gudd
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 66
    I think as long as you have enough hps to allow an adequate margin of error for yourself and the healer for whatever fight you're in, STR gear is fine.

    Personally I like to never be below 9000 hps with defiance even in full dps gear. I typically go with a more balanced build with just enough VIT to reach 10K health in group with food. The rest goes into STR.

    That being said, sometimes if I'm doing EX roulette I'll go full dps and even drop defiance if I'm paired with 2 undergeared or just slacking DPS. Assuming the healer can handle it. It's all dependent on the situation really.
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  9. #39
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    MythToken's Avatar
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    I would also like to point out, in an encounter with random people, if I am dying or not being healed. I add in a VIT accessory every wipe.
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

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    Cerick's Avatar
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    Character
    Aquel Kuran
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I read some of the posts, but not enough time to read all the pages.

    At the end of the day, Warrior class is a tank. If you need to wear STR gear for extra DPS, then your have bigger problems if your group needs to rely on tanks doing extra DPS.

    If you need to wear STR gear to keep agro better, than you have bigger problems with as super easy as it is these days for tanks to keep agro. I play WHM and yes I purposefully try to steal agro in instances (not raids..) from my static tank since he always says no one can steal agro off him. I medica 2 before pulls, holy spam, wait till he is almost dead and benediction him for max heal agro etc.. and I can't steal agro from him.

    In Pugs, just wear your tank gear to avoid drama. In preformed groups that you are comfortable with, then wear your STR gear, but in general if I see a class wearing gear that is not specifically for their class either it means they don't know how to play, or they swapped higher gear to meet iLVL requirement and are new to the duty.

    Just to say it again.. in pugs just wear tank gear to avoid drama.
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