History of the Gunner job.

[Alukah]

Did they say you could unlock Dark Knight from Lv10? Because if it's Lv30 like every other Job, then getting to Ishgard to unlock it (or any other Job) is no harder than getting to the NPC to unlock Dragoon...

The last interview said DRK would be available at the start of 3.0, though this can be interpreted in more than one way, I do think it will be available as a starter class, as a way to get people to try the expansion.

Also the interview is in JP, so some things could be lost in translation.

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs...12_673698.html

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...erview-Summary

And please don't use Google translator or things will turn creepy really fast

In other words, Are you saying dark knight available from the beginning?

Yoshida: Then I would like to touch everyone soon, I'm going to that.

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Huh. I never saw that before. Interesting to say the least. I seriously hope they don't do that with the Gun Class. That said, that doesn't change the fact that there is absolutely no bloody reason for the Dark Knight Quest Giver to be located in Ishgard.

If the job would start at level 30 then it doesn't really matter where it is located, most current job NPCs are located in places that have nothing to do with the job itself, or being handled by people not really related to the job, like the marauder that deals with SCH or the SMN one in Gridania. It could be in Ishgard or it could be in one of the new zones, or even in one of the three starter areas, like I said doesn't really matter.

But if the job is available at 1 or available for creation then the most likely place will be one of the three main city-states, and since it's a job NPC it won't require a guild.

[Nalien]

I really doubt it will be a starter Job, for the same reason Rogue isn't. You'll have to unlock it, it's just a matter of how, when, and where. It will be available at the start of 3.0 simply means it'll be in the game at the start, rather than having to wait for 3.1 for it to be introduced in a similar way to how Rogue/Ninja were.

I'd bet it'll simply be a quest located anywhere (I don't care for that debate, though I wouldn't rule out Ishgard) that requires something like Paladin and Black Mage unlocked, rewarding you with a Dark Knight Stone and Weathered Greatsword.

[Alukah]

I really doubt it will be a starter Job, for the same reason Rogue isn't. You'll have to unlock it, it's just a matter of how, when, and where. It will be available at the start of 3.0 simply means it'll be in the game at the start, rather than having to wait for 3.1 for it to be introduced in a similar way to how Rogue/Ninja were.

Like I said it can be interpreted in more than one way I rather leave room for doubt until we get any sort of confirmation.

[Tharian]

If the job would start at level 30 then it doesn't really matter where it is located, most current job NPCs are located in places that have nothing to do with the job itself, or being handled by people not really related to the job, like the marauder that deals with SCH or the SMN one in Gridania. It could be in Ishgard or it could be in one of the new zones, or even in one of the three starter areas, like I said doesn't really matter.

You are entirely missing the point. A Dark Knight NPC, or heck even just an NPC wishing to revive the lore of whatever lost civilization created the Dark Knights, would be viewed as a heretic by Ishgard, and as such would be risking their very lives for every single second that they remain within the walls of that city. As such I highly doubt that the Dark Knight Job Quest NPC will be located within Ishgard PERIOD. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether it could be housed within that city, and everything to do with whether it makes SENSE to house it within that City from a Lore Perspective.

[Alukah]

You are entirely missing the point. A Dark Knight NPC, or heck even just an NPC wishing to revive the lore of whatever lost civilization created the Dark Knights, would be viewed as a heretic by Ishgard, and as such would be risking their very lives for every single second that they remain within the walls of that city. As such I highly doubt that the Dark Knight Job Quest NPC will be located within Ishgard PERIOD. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether it could be housed within that city, and everything to do with whether it makes SENSE to house it within that City from a Lore Perspective.

You are assuming too much here, we know absolutely nothing about the back story of Dark Knight, this isn't real world history. What if a Dark Knight under Eorzea's lore is just a special kind of Temple Knight? Just let's not jump the gun here and wait for more information.

Also we're going off-topic with this DRK chat, this thread is about the gunner job.

[Tharian]

I don't even know how we got on the topic of DRK...

[LineageRazor]

Not to mention the only portal to-from Ishgard is in a level 35+ zone.

Well, if you ignore airships, if you start the game in Gridania, the only way to unlock any of the classes in Limsa Lominsa or Ul'dah requires traveling through level 30+ zones (South Shroud and Eastern Thanalan).

But we don't have to ignore airships. If SE wants to base the new jobs in Ishgard, and they want level 10 players to be able to unlock these new jobs, all they have to do is provide airship service. Easy peasy - just talk to the Airship ticketer, grab your ticket to Ishgard, and off you go!

[Mimilu]

I know I'm kind of necro-threading but I think I might have figured out the James Bond reference.
I think it is alluding to Balthier from XII.
Why?
Just look at Balthier. He reeks of James Bond-ness. He's suave, intelligent, cocky, a charmer/lech, and a bit of ham with a pension for humorous, one-liners and delusions that he's the "leading man". In addition, not only is his signature weapons guns, he fires them one-handed, similar to how a certain spy hold their PP7. He even speaks with a British accent in the English dub.

[Kuwagami]

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And the reference to the old tactics series would be his appearance in the PSP remake ? Kinda hard to believe... Especially with the idea of gunner healer that many accepted due to the fact the gunner won't be what players are expecting (i.e. Musketeer, ranged dps)

[DarkStar]

And the reference to the old tactics series would be his appearance in the PSP remake ? Kinda hard to believe... Especially with the idea of gunner healer that many accepted due to the fact the gunner won't be what players are expecting (i.e. Musketeer, ranged dps)

Well, now that everyone's expecting Healer, they could make whatever is the gun-using class a DPS and still get away with saying it's something nobody ever expected.