History of the Gunner job.

[Malakai]

We got our DPS (Ninja), They showed us our next Tank (Dark Knight), all that's left is for them to show a new Healer job. And the next job show has a gun. And lots of people still speculate the possibility of it being RDM from an old teaser picture someone did a long time ago. Never know SE could bring this to life

[Tharian]

As for what weapons a Blue Mage could use, they could always give it something new for Blue Mage. Summoners never used books prior to XI, but it seems like a fine weapon all things considered. They could also come up with some offshoot of a currently used weapon that would work for them to use as well. I personally expect that Red Mages will use Rapiers, even if it's similar to Gladiator weapons. Besides, Conjurer/Thaumaturge use pretty much the same thing with no issues as well.

If you want to get absolutely technical in the matters, the only dedicated Summoner jobs in Final Fantasy History were in Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy XI, this game, the Tactics series, and Bravely Default. But yes, you are right, aside from Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, the Summoner has never used a book.

HOWEVER, Books have been used as a Weapon Type before. In fact they have been used as a weapon type for Scholars specifically before. Books were used by Scholars in Final Fantasy III. They were used by Mystics, Arithmeticians, and Onion Knights in Final Fantasy Tactics (though called Dictionaries). And they were used by Scholars and Seers in Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift. Point is, books are not original to this game. Heck, the Scholar in Final Fantasy XI even uses books indirectly, though in that case its via an ability rather than as a weapon.

Rapiers would I agree be the most likely candidate for the Red Mages weapon. I mean Red Mages are also loosely associated with the Fencer class.

[Alukah]

@Mirron I could be wrong but, as far as I know they never mentioned any specific number of new jobs, we should wait until the fanfest before jumping the gun (lol).

[Mirron]

Hmm? I never mentioned any particular number of jobs either, someone else said we'd be getting three though. I don't recall that myself. All I know is two currently, Dark Knight and whatever this new one is.

And I meant XIV, whoops. And yes, I never said books were a new weapon type. But what I meant was that even though it's not a new weapon type for the series, it's new for Summoners. Heck, they could give Blue Mages scythes and explain it as reaping monster souls or some nonsense if they wanted to, or just give it some random weapon that doesn't matter too much, they are primarily mages after all, or hopefully will be.

The point was mostly that just because Blue Mages seem like they lack in weapon variety, it doesn't really matter. There are weapons that aren't currently in this game. Tactics Advance had a ton of variants on swords without any issue, despite weapons being pretty important to jobs as well. I don't know how they'll add Blue Mage, or if they will, but it doesn't need to be Gun Mage is all I was saying.

[Tharian]

All I know is that the Gladiator currently has control of the standard Longsword, Bastard Sword, and Gunblade (granted it only has ONE Gunblade currently). That leaves us room for Greatswords of all sorts (Dark Knights?), Falchions, Scimitars, Katanas (and variants), Rapiers, Khopeshes, Harpes (not the same as a Harp), Executioners Swords, Shotels, Ida's (otherwise known as a Machette), various different types of Chinese Long & Broad swords, Chinese Hook Swords, and that is just the majority of the swords available on the Eastern Hemisphere. We have a ways to go before we have exhausted all resources in the Sword department. Much less the wide variety of improvised weapons such as things like the Scythe, Sickle, Flail (all of which were originally farming equipment), Ballpoint Pen (writing utensil), Bo-Staff and other stick like implements (assisted walking apparatus), just to name a few.

In fact if you were to name an item, I could probably describe a way in which it could be used to kill or seriously maim someone. Even a feather is a dangerous weapon in the right hands.

[Venos]

Why does everyone keep counting ninja towards 3.0 content?? It's apart of the 2.0 series, not 3.0.

[Alberel]

You're being voluntarily blind here.

New city state, new jobs in it. 2 of them have been announced : a tank and a healer.

And that's not even considering the fact that Limsa has 3 classes already within its walls, just like Ul'dha and Gridania.

Musketeer in Limsa is only a relic of the past. Why can't people let that go away ? The new jobs will be related to the new city. Just like they should.

If any new job is to come in old cities, it won't be before a few patches

Not to be an ass but there is ZERO reason to assume any of the new jobs will come specifically from Ishgard. Considering that Ishgard is a holy city I find it incredibly unlikely that they train Dark Knights. It's more likely we'll get access to that job via a different faction entirely.

[Tharian]

Ishgard is far more likely to house a Paladin's Guild and a Dragoons Guild SPECIFICALLY than it is any other job or class seeing as how a Paladin is quite literally a Holy Knight, and a Dragoon is specifically associated with the lore of Ishgard itself.

With regards to the Paladin specifically, the word Paladin is a direct reference to one of the 12 Knights in the attendance of Charlemagne, Emperor of Western Holy Roman Empire (Mods, this is a historical FACT, not a religious topic). Though it is a French word, Paladin could also be applied to King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table as well. As such it makes a great deal of sense for Paladins to be in the service of the Pope of Ishgard.

Interestingly enough, the Final Fantasy VII Summon "Knights of the Round" summons 13 Knights, one of which is supposed to be King Arthur himself. This is specifically a reference to not only King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table (in fact one of the original Welsh sources for the King Arthur Myth place the numbers of King Arthur's men at 225 strong), but to Charlemagne's "Twelve Peers" of Paladins upon whom much of the entire concept for the Round Table was based.

It makes absolutely ZERO sense for Dark Knights to be in the service of any Pope, PERIOD; unless it is the Pope of an Eorzean city state that worships Demons in some fashion. In fact it would make far more sense for the Dark Knight class to be of Garlemald Origin than it would for it to be of Ishgardian Origin. In fact, the armor and gear that the leaders of the Garlean Army in the main storyline wear, is PURE Dark Knight.

[Alexia89]

Dynza probably thought about Laguna Loire because of the music played during Laguna's combat, "The Man with the Machine Gun". However, Laguna wasn't any special gunner, most basic one even lol. But ye I thought the same as you when he/she said Laguna's gun was golden O.o

His gun WAS, in fact, gold. During his limit break.
Let's not jump down peoples throats without all the facts, just makes us look silly

[Tharian]

His gun WAS, in fact, gold. During his limit break.
Let's not jump down peoples throats without all the facts, just makes us look silly

You are in fact blatantly wrong:

Laguna Loire's Limit Break Final Fantasy VIII

I do not count the nonsense that was Dissidia.