I just beat T5!

[NyarukoW]

...vp_cmc's reply was clearly a joke. Please stop being so defensive.

It is not a joke and it is not funny. It is an unhelpful put down for no good reason.

[Shioban]

[SARCASM] You are a bit late for world first, sorry [/SARCASM]

People seem to be struggling with basic sarcasm. Had to edit it for you.

THE FORUMS AND TURN 5 ARE SUPER SERIOUS GUYS.

It is not a joke and it is not funny. It is an unhelpful put down for no good reason.

"I didn't laugh at it, therefore no-one found it funny!"

Please step down off your rickety soap box and lighten up a little.

Because sarcasm over the internet translates so well.

It's pretty obvious. Unless you're suffering form severe brain-damage or conspicuous social ailments.

[AzakaTonnerre]

"I did laugh at it, therefore everyone must have found it funny!"

Please step down off your rickety soap box and lighten up a little.

It's not obvious to everyone I just assume it must be cause I am always right in reading people I don't know's intent on an internet board.

There I fixed those for you because your assumptions are not fact and no more right or wrong than theirs. In fact since you took the step to edit that OP for her to make it "obvious" it was sarcasm, couldn't she have done the same if she wanted to? Or a quick reply to someone who was confused saying it was? One could surmise that since they didn't, they were in fact not being sarcastic.

While I assume it is sarcasm just as you did, neither of us have any way of knowing for sure so stop being an ass to people whose opinions differ from ours just because you think you know it all.

After reading what you said though (especially the brain damage part), I did get a chuckle out of the soap box comment. Pot meet kettle.

[NyarukoW]

It's pretty obvious opaque. Unless you're suffering form severe brain-damage or conspicuous social ailments.

I've been told I have some mild Asperger's and I do NOT get sarcasm. So you want to insult everyone that is can NOT see your so called implied meanings/feeling in the the text? How about trying to be nice and supportive. Why put some one down about not being world's first? How could that even be remotely funny, sarcasm or not? Why is it so hard to be happy for someone else being happy?

Imagine your friend telling you about how his kid is taking their first steps, and you tell them it is not the worlds first. Or about if his kid grows up and becomes an astronaut and walks on the on the moon, and you tell him it is not the world's first. What does it even mean? Other than making fun of others discounting their progress?

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Why is it so hard to be happy for someone else being happy?

Many of us "hardcore raiders" are quite happy, tho. Why are you always so angry in your posts, instead of being happy for us? :/ Why is it so hard?

[Shioban]

I've been told I have some mild Asperger's and I do NOT get sarcasm. So you want to insult everyone that is can NOT see your so called implied meanings/feeling in the the text? How about trying to be nice and supportive. Why put some one down about not being world's first?

Because this is exactly my point. Over something so small, menial and borderline pointless I've had two angry responses already.

It really really doesn't matter.

Of course they know they're not the world-first group, it's extremely unlike that the OP is going to take offence to that, considering every group since then hasn't been a world first group.

Why is it so hard to be happy for someone else being happy?

Absolutely no-where in their post does it sate "Lol T5 is old, GG you suck, we hate you, you don't deserve it"

You're making a rather large mountain of a mole-hill.

While I assume it is sarcasm just as you did, neither of us have any way of knowing for sure so stop being an ass to people whose opinions differ from ours just because you think you know it all.

After reading what you said though (especially the brain damage part), I did get a chuckle out of the soap box comment. Pot meet kettle.

You've literally just proven my point, in that you were able to brush over it and go "Well that's clearly sarcasm, every group besides BG isn't a world first group".

It's amazing that the forums will always find one thing that they don't like and make a HUGE deal out of it. I baffles me how people could function like that in real life.

After reading what you said though (especially the brain damage part), I did get a chuckle out of the soap box comment. Pot meet kettle.

I don't feel like sugar-coating it to help the medicine go down better.

Well that wasn't specifically directed at that person in particular, but more so for all swarming angry posts over something so hilariously menial.

I simply pointed out that people were getting overly vicious on something clearly intended as a small joke, taking it as the most offensive, cruel and hurtful thing next to telling Hitler jokes at Oktoberfest.

You can't expect everyone to go; "WELL DONE, YOU DID GOOD", "Time 4 T6!, CONGRATULATIONS xoxoxoxoxo!!!!"

[NyarukoW]

Many of us "hardcore raiders" are quite happy, tho. Why are you always so angry in your posts, instead of being happy for us? :/ Why is it so hard?

I am frustrated by the lack of empathy and support for the new and newer players. I am not angry at raiders, unless they are busy putting down other players and saying crap like "not the world's first". I am happy they are clearing T12. There is nothing wrong with that.

You're making a rather large mountain of a mole-hill.

It is a mountain of bad attitude, and pretending it is mole-hill is just pretending to be blind. Instead of "not the world's first", how about saying "join our T6 runs and lets get a clear"?

[Shioban]

It is a mountain of bad attitude, and pretending it is mole-hill is just pretending to be blind.

Please don't ever move to or visit the United Kingdom, we practically live of Sarcasm.

If something as simple a SINGLE phrase not even directed at you can cause offense, you need to step back and re-assess the situation.

Something like this shouldn't make you angry.

It is not about me. And once again the insults fly about people being "handcarried". That is such a distortion of the facts, the vast majority of the players just want an opportunity to learn and progress, but they are NOT welcome. Look on the PF, how many learning parties are there vs how many "no newbies wanted", " must have clear", etc.etc. PFs are there. The facts don't lie.

There's an easy solution for that. START A LEARNING PARTY.

There are more people that have cleared and want to farm it, than people who need to learn or are willing to learn.

Therefore, waiting around for a learning party to come up isn't likely. Simply form you own.

Or consult what this person said if you don't believe me;

You are most likely a troll, but currently I have some spare time so I will answer to you.

First of all, please remember that EVERYONE is free to start up their own PF group. If new players are interested in learning fights with other new players. they are completely free to put up as many learning parties as required. Same goes for experienced people - if they want to farm content (thus requiring experienced people), they are free to put up as much PF entries as required.

The fact that there are less "learning parties" than "farm parties" means that, apparently, there are less "new players" than "experienced players". That's all.

[NyarukoW]

Please don't ever move to or visit the United Kingdom, we practically live of Sarcasm.
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So the UK people never say anything genuine? Really? There was no sarcasm only a veiled putdown and a lack of empathy.

You can't expect everyone to go; "WELL DONE, YOU DID GOOD", "Time 4 T6!, CONGRATULATIONS xoxoxoxoxo!!!!"

But you don't need to go rain on other's people parade either.

Something like this shouldn't make you angry.

Why not? We should all be apathetic and indifferent to people being treated badly? Be complicit to this game's community going to the crappers and become totally toxic? I do my best to counter it, even if it is a sisyphean task. BTW I been around the net enough to know better than to get angry, but I am not going to stay silent.

[Hyouretsuzan]

I knew something was fishy about this thread. A seemingly harmless thread about someone clearing turn 5 that had 5 pages worth of responses.

Well OP, congrats on your clear. This thread turned sour so don't be surprised if it gets locked up or deleted. People seem to find it hard that not everyone share their same state of mind.