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  1. #21
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    Tempestras's Avatar
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    Granil Tempish
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Initially, I was excited by this, but now I m confused. I recruited a friend, everything went smoothly. He bought time and I got the friendship circlet on my main character, this was also fine as I assumed I would get the mount after a further period of time. I logged into my secondary character today only to find that it had received the mount whistle. I had hoped to have both items on my main. Whats up SE? why did this happen and is there any way to fix this?
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  2. #22
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    Jacost's Avatar
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    Jeyrr Stenn
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Are you sure you haven't simply gotten the mount on every character?
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  3. #23
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    Tempestras's Avatar
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    Granil Tempish
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacost View Post
    Are you sure you haven't simply gotten the mount on every character?
    I am sure. I only have 2 characters on the server and my main is the only one of the two to get the circlet while my second is the only one to get the mount
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  4. #24
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    Tempestras's Avatar
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    Granil Tempish
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempestras View Post
    I am sure. I only have 2 characters on the server and my main is the only one of the two to get the circlet while my second is the only one to get the mount
    ##UPDATE##

    upon posting this, my main magically received the mount, which is odd as I literally had logged out of it and onto my second about 15 minutes ago. Now the question, does my secondary character get the circlet too?
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  5. #25
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempestras View Post
    ##UPDATE##

    upon posting this, my main magically received the mount, which is odd as I literally had logged out of it and onto my second about 15 minutes ago. Now the question, does my secondary character get the circlet too?
    I would think so. At least that's how the veteran rewards work. Each of your characters gets every veteran reward you earn. I'd always assumed these reward items would work the same in that regard.
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  6. #26
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    Fig Eiros
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    Kujata
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    Carpenter Lv 50

    Free trial as guest in eternal bonding

    The restrictions on trading and moogle delivery prevents free trial guests in receiving their invitations. Without invitations, they cannot attend.

    Having players invite their non-ff14 playing friends to actually try the game under the premise of wanting to be a guest in the ceremony which potentially costs $40 would have been a great way to get people to try out the game and maybe stay and subscribe later.

    Nowhere in the eternal bonding website says that free trial players are not allowed to be guests. I have not seen any other official post stating to this effect - unless I have overlooked it.

    Therefore, I would like to ask directly, and in turn, have a categorical official reply: are you banning free trial players from attending Eternal Bonding ceremonies as guests? Or perhaps there is another way besides trade window and moogle delivery where you can send the invitation to your guest?
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  7. #27
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    Silver Snow
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fig View Post
    Nowhere in the eternal bonding website says that free trial players are not allowed to be guests. I have not seen any other official post stating to this effect - unless I have overlooked it.

    Therefore, I would like to ask directly, and in turn, have a categorical official reply: are you banning free trial players from attending Eternal Bonding ceremonies as guests? Or perhaps there is another way besides trade window and moogle delivery where you can send the invitation to your guest?
    Couldn't resist replying due to the way you are wording this. I'm not sure the eternal bonding website even needs to list this restriction unless (oddly) they spell out the fact that people need an active account in order to attend or that banned players are unable either.

    When using the free trial you are accepting limitations placed on that character in return for free play time. So it's actually your trial guests that are "banning" themselves from ceremonies since there is an easy way for them to attend. Aka. Subbing.

    A better post would have been asking if there was a possible way for them to allow invitations to bypass any restrictions trial accounts may have.
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  8. #28
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    Fig Eiros
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    Kujata
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    The nature of this kind of "ban" is a ban by implication. In other words, the only reason free trial players are "banned" is because the guest invite methods happen to fall under the free trial restrictions. There are two possibilities:

    1) this was an oversight and was an unintended effect due to the sweeping nature of the trade restriction - they can remedy this by simply going "oh right, trial players wont be able to get invited. we will make a new method of sending an invitation", or

    2) SE intended that free trial players are not allowed to be invited as guests - if so, they should post this on the eternal bonding website. Eternal bonding mechanics are addressed to people who actually bought the game and have reached a substantial amount of progress with it. These are players who wouldn't normally concern themselves with the free trial details. They have guidelines on guest invitations but they are silent on free trial users.

    Likewise, if i was a free trial user, I shouldn't be concerning myself with the detailed mechanics of eternal bonding. If I happened to have friends in game who wanted to invite me to their ceremony, I shouldn't be burdened with the technicalities or it would be as if the guest was the one asking the couple to invite him/her and would be inappropriate. Sending out invites are (at least theoretically) in the complete discretion of the participants, after all.

    This being said, the problem of the implied ban is that we have 2 rules to know: one for a free player, and one for subscribers. This guest invitation issue, however, requires you to be well-versed in both rules and be able to harmonize them to the best of your abilities. While this is not impossible to do, it can be unreasonable. A free trial user has only 14 days to play and unless he's actually expecting that someone will want to invite him to be a guest, there's no reason for him to read the eternal bonding rules. In the case of the participants, if the rules don't mention any restrictions on who to invite, it is but reasonable to assume that they can invite anyone. Of course, there are exceptional cases like mine where we convinced a non-player to go into free trial to be a guest, but exceptions are exceptions, not the general rule. I'm sure notice in the eternal bonding page saying free users can't be guests isn't too hard to add if it adds to the clarity of the rules.

    Until SE releases a statement, it can go both ways. As of this time of writing, my ceremony has already finished so this is moot and academic for me. However, I would really like to know SE's stand on this for the sake of clarification and for the benefit of other players.

    Update: GM responded to my in-game support after around 2 days of waiting for a response: "We understand that you are reaching out to the GM team for assistance, but unfortunately we are unable to address your request as it falls outside the scope of our services."
    The GMs have normally been responsive when it comes to eternal bonding issues, even going as far as to decide matters which can potentially cause a claim for refund/cashback due to mistake or interpretation issues on the rules. The issue in this case is just a guest invite, which pales in magnitude compared to a sale dispute. It may be inferred from their silence that no official stand has been issued by SE on this and they cannot, by themselves, comment on the issue.
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    Last edited by Fig; 12-25-2014 at 05:32 PM.

  9. #29
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    Neon Plank
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    Zodiark
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    Marauder Lv 20
    Hey there, sorry to hijack a thread a bit but since I can't create my own threads yet I tried to find the most correct one to post this question in :/ .. I can't find a clear answer to this anywhere on the net. Is the PS3 free trial available only to US customers ? I am asking because even thou I have a full game for the PC, I wanted to motivate my wife to play on our PS3, but I cannot find the free trial option anywhere in the PlayStation store. I can find the PS4 trial just fine (which to me has no logic...).

    When I got an link from a ingame friend to the trial ( https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwo...-NPUB31255_00-), I could access the page only without logging in, to actually buy/activate the trial, after that the page refreshed and went into "Page cannot be found" ...

    So Is the PS3 trial US only ? If it is EU also, why dose it not work in my country which is Poland ?
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  10. #30
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    Llammammammadingdong's Avatar
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    Rainbow Puffs
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I understand that time between friends isn't cumulative.my question is will they both receive the friendship circlet and emote?

    They both received the rewards. In case anyone else was wondering.
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    Last edited by Llammammammadingdong; 08-16-2015 at 05:47 AM.

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