Accuracy healer new gear?

[Craiger]

I'm sorry, but have you done endgame content? Most of the fights are tight dps checks. You have it completely backwards, healers need to DPS while you are under-geared because everyone is doing less damage.

Its how we started to clear T8 and T9 back when they where fresh, and it's still something we rely on for T10+, altho to a lesser degree since only our SCH can really DPS now.

It's still basically asking them to make content easier then... "SE can you please increase healers DPS so we can clear the new content even faster than it already is?" is pretty much what the OP is asking for... The DPS from the players that should actually DPS becomes a little more important, and it makes it harder to complete content, how is that bad in any way or form?

Content might a DPS-check, but that doesn't mean the healers can just do DPS all the time without losing out on something else, like time to stoneskin people etc...

[Odett]

Butthurt much because you are tired of everybody claiming what is true? That your WHM can be played by a 5 year old?

Prime example of how some people like to SS and Regen people at 90% when they have nothing better to do because they think looking useful makes them be useful, instead of actually being useful and Cleric dancing

[Greven]

Healers can DPS, face it. Accuracy in healers gears is there for a reason. The PVP right now is so sad from a healer POV I'm not even going to talk about it. So, there are moments during many fights where healers just stand there doing nothing, Stoneskin has a really long cast and cost a lot of MP and it's not that useful, or anyway throwing here and there some DOTs doesn't hurt anyone. During some DPS check every kind of help is welcome, even poisoning potions. Then Energy Drain rely on your ACC.. You don't have to do it yourself if you doesn't want to, but please do not critic or try to limit those who do it, it's a coward behavior. If a healer is doing his job fine, adding some damage to the party DPS is just good.

Now to the thread focus: yes, I guess it's intended as healers don't need to always land attacks, it'd make the job stronger compared to other roles.

[Lithera]

The point of accuracy additions to healer gear was because there was no reason they should be behind on the accuracy cap on content that wasn't a current top end Raid (basically handed them the accuracy to hit cap in First Coil and EX Primals). Can you hit T9 accuracy cap without allocating extra accuracy to your Relic or melded accessories? Energy Drain is an unfortunate oversight and should be guaranteed, but for everything else it isn't going to kill you that you only have like 80-85% accuracy. If you want that accuracy, do what tanks do. Put on DPS accessories (ie. Casting accessories).

[Odett]

So, there are moments during many fights where healers just stand there doing nothing, Stoneskin has a really long cast and cost a lot of MP and it's not that useful.

Exactly. In a situational setting, SS can be great, like SSing a ranged DPS before a fireball in T7 or for allagan field, or a Mountain Buster [insert other examples here], but randomly casting stoneskin because you have nothing better to do at the moment just gives the illusion of being useful, and is mostly a waste of time and MP that could be used for other things.

[OranKells]

so is what i'm hearing is that your static's DPS isn't up to snuff to clear final coil so you need the healers to do double duty?

as long as you have that green icon next to your name your role is to heal. any dps you can dish out, is by the definition of your job's declared role, considered extracurricular.

healer dps helps you push through turns you aren't properly geared up for yet, definitely. but we can't get all butthurt when we find the healers gear isn't letting you keep up the dps they were never intended to do.

the fights are tuned such that 4 dps are supposed to be able to clear it, problem is theres an ilvl req for it most of us won't hit for another month, which is when the uber dps healers come in.

[odintius]

From my personnel experiences if your party is in a boss fights and are at the recommended gear ilvl your most likely going to spend most your time healing the tank/party maybe few dot's depending on how you manage your mp ect. If your over gear for it you will have enough time to do dps because party or tank isn't taking allot of damage and not just standing their all of this is situational.

[Dreamer]

Exactly. In a situational setting, SS can be great, like SSing a ranged DPS before a fireball in T7 or for allagan field, or a Mountain Buster [insert other examples here], but randomly casting stoneskin because you have nothing better to do at the moment just gives the illusion of being useful, and is mostly a waste of time and MP that could be used for other things.

Stoneskin is an 18% effective HP increase for everyone you cast it on. It is NEVER wasted. That's ~1000 damage you're effectively pre-healing (closer to ~2000 for your average tank).

[Drako]

This is so strange. I'm no healer(well iv been recently getting SCH up but its not endgame) but I've seen a lot of posts in the past of people complaining the healers are too lazy to dps. Now there's a thread telling them not to dps? What is going on here. I mean I know there is a difference between holy spam in a dungeon, and DPSing coil. But I've done some coil, I did T1-5 when it wasn't unlocked/echo'd. Admittedly I took a break from end game on T6-9 until it was unlocked recently. I recall healers getting DPS in to help speed the process along. It's not a issue if your group chemistry is good, and everyone knows the fight and knows where they can and cannot DPS. It all comes down to experience. If your not that good yet, obviously you play it safe and heal full time until you learn when it can be done, and how to do it without costing the run. Also on the comment of wasting time on an Aero? That skill is at least the minimum option a healer could use to help overall if they are too busy healing. It would at least help them contribute to the overall time it takes to win. Aero is no big thing, AeroII could be tricky if your still learning. There is also the other element, the player that really wont ever be able to multi task like that. You know if your that kind of person, and that's fine. So long as you can do all the other healing tasks anyways.

[Ghishlain]

If you're so hot to trot to DPS, go ahead and meld some Accuracy in some i110 craftable gear. That's what I plan to do for my gloves, though I imagine I'll nee a bit more to hit things more readily.

In terms of WHY they added accuracy onto healer gear? My own personal opinion is to normalize "level growth". If ilvl is suppose to indicate your growth as you get stronger, it would make sense to normalize your accuracy as well to suit that, even if that accuracy is quite paltry in comparison. I don't feel the accuracy was added to help healers in DPSing Coil, maybe more so for EX Primals though.