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  1. #1161
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by sirlombax View Post
    snip.
    Nah, don't feel bad. Everyone's first time at Titan HM is hard. That fight is kind of a pain in the ass tbh.

    I remember having to PF it for my very first relic because DF parties failed it time and time again.

    Don't worry, it gets better. The bombs have definite patterns to them and you'll learn them. ^^
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  2. #1162
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    Gorvi's Avatar
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    Gorvi Velgin
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    Also.... I keep getting pugged ninjas in both low AND HM dungeons who think they're tanks by running into everything BEFORE tanks. On everything. Mobs, bosses, everything.
    Granted, the last ninja that did this had just 400 less HP than the tank but still! HP is not DEF! D:

    Reminds me of the time the BLM said "Screw this let me tank, I have as much HP as they do" >_> and then proceeded to fight for the aggro, against the tank.
    Man, I'm glad I'm not the only one getting this. Leveling my PLD in Haukke Manor the other day was an exercise in frustration due to NINs doing this.
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  3. #1163
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by sirlombax View Post
    Snipsnip
    Pretty much like everyone said, Titan HM is a pain in the ass, so don't worry too much I still somewhat have trouble with Titan HM after so much time (but moreso from the WoTLs and apparent true-position lag... other times I'm just blinded by the effects of explosion smoke and flying dirt)
    The bombs get annoying and it's frenetic enough even without the dang things flopping down in random patterns.

    I just go towards where the last bomb dropped and wait on it - then watch where the first bomb(s) explode - after that I run towards the bomb that exploded first (just don't get caught in the one(s) exploding next to it). Easy with the pie wheel layout dropping singularly - just running to the middle then running to the first exploded spot - but more annoying when they drop by pairs/groupings (of say, three at a time...).

    There is an awesome youtube tutorial on this fight, by Mister Happy, that tells you about the multiple boulder bomb layouts that will drop down, and what you should do for them
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  4. #1164
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    Urtear's Avatar
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    Ultear Milkovich
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Pretty much every roulette since yesterday, It's been "pnch me in the face and violate me with a winebottle, MORE MORE MORE!!!" tanks in dungeons. Never asking if healer can handle big pulls, they just charge in to receive their beloved pain. As a Sch, I have no problems with big pulls, but be able to handle what you pull. When you're at half life and dropping fast, STOP-FUGGIN-PULLING!!! Let me heal your retarded ass, because it's gonna take all of my cd's and full attention to keep you alive, TANKS.

    Mythflox was the start of all of this, and it's becoming seriously annoying. And if there's a Blm in party...God forbid 2...Tanks now literally grab all mobs up to the boss room, or damn close to it...then their HP drops like a sack of potatoes and they blame Blm then me. Fire 2 and Flare have long cast timers, and I can't heal stupid. This has been getting worse by the day.
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    From other people's point of view, I look like a monster. I'm a stupid woman who imagines she can create a happy life by piling up her sins

  5. #1165
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    EmeraldAres's Avatar
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    Emerald Ares
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Urtear View Post
    Pretty much every roulette since yesterday, It's been "pnch me in the face and violate me with a winebottle, MORE MORE MORE!!!" tanks in dungeons. Never asking if healer can handle big pulls, they just charge in to receive their beloved pain. As a Sch, I have no problems with big pulls, but be able to handle what you pull. When you're at half life and dropping fast, STOP-FUGGIN-PULLING!!! Let me heal your retarded ass, because it's gonna take all of my cd's and full attention to keep you alive, TANKS.

    Mythflox was the start of all of this, and it's becoming seriously annoying. And if there's a Blm in party...God forbid 2...Tanks now literally grab all mobs up to the boss room, or damn close to it...then their HP drops like a sack of potatoes and they blame Blm then me. Fire 2 and Flare have long cast timers, and I can't heal stupid. This has been getting worse by the day.
    I hear you there. Had a 2 BLM group get mad at me in Qarn when I "wasn't using holy enough," even though my MP was starting to get low from sloppy pulls and the tank kept letting adds get on me. The BLMs didn't seem all that strong either, although I could be wrong about them. It's like people automatically assume that 1 WHM + 2 BLM = autowin. The tank still has to put in some level of effort or it isn't going to work. Besides that, I've just seen sloppy things in the new three dungeons like tanks standing in almost every AOE and unnecessary dragging of mobs (in the time it would take you to drag a group of mites and vipers all the way to the guardian and his hands, it would be easier to just kill them and not risk the possibility that key party members will be grabbed at the absolute worst time when a bunch of stuff is trying to kill us!).

    Again, I don't mind big pulls either, but please tanks... be smart about it. Don't get angry when I have to scale back my use of holy, either.
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    Last edited by EmeraldAres; 11-15-2014 at 05:41 AM.

  6. #1166
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    SlyRoyale's Avatar
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    Cecilia Tyyne
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    I had a Qarn run earlier today levelling my SCH where the tank couldn't hold aggro and died a couple of times because Eos was busy healing the rest of the party while I was trying to keep the poor fairy alive. The NIN in the group had the audacity to call me out on DPSing, even though I was doing everything I can to keep the party healthy and recover from mistakes on my end while trying to keep others alive from theirs. SOR-RY for trying to help clear that disaster of a run faster so we could all be on our way.

    Why do people bitch at healers for contributing to DPS? Without it, they just twiddle their thumbs until a party member's HP reaches low amounts. It's so frustrating to deal with and I won't have any tolerance or reservations towards the next ignorant prick who tells me to stop playing the role properly.
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  7. #1167
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    File2ish's Avatar
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Was horror at the very start, the rest of the dungeon was smooth as butter.

    Did a high level roulette on my alt's WHM. Base thyrus as my weapon and af1.5 equipment (i90 stuff).

    I do my normal routine, protect, stoneskin, move with the group. Tank stops and checks my gear then proceeds to pull the first group.

    Then the second.

    ...And then pulled both groups to the final room.

    The tank used Hallowed Ground, I healed her up and popped stoneskin on her before HG wore off. Then Cure 2 spam. Wasn't enough, Divine Seal! Barely able to keep up. DS wears, Presence of Mind! Working as well as DS was. ...But then it wore. Benediction fail, tank dies. Managed to keep the BRD/DRG up for another mob or two before I finally took hate and died.

    The tank had respawned ahead of the rest of us and ran in again without waiting for at least me. SoS was down, I had enough MP to heal a bit. Buuuut tank died again anyway because she didn't wait for everyone, then I died again because I healed.
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  8. #1168
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I really despise these "Go go go!" Tanks in any game they more often than not just get themselves killed by biting off more than they can chew. Some Tanks i know can handle it and they know what they are doing. These mad dog tunnel vision types are the absolute worst ones you can get. Then when they die and then die again because they ran in without even waiting for the Healer to put protect on them they start screaming and calling the Healer bad. In a random party the first thing you should be doing is seeing what your party can handle if you clean up the first few mobs in seconds then move on to bigger pulls don' just expect to pull huge and survive. I'm usually trying to figure out how competent the Tank/DPS are on the first couple of pulls
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  9. #1169
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyRoyale View Post
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    Because not everyone will agree to healers DPSing unless the party votes on it. Not everyone employs the same strategy. If you don't like the party telling you to not DPS as a healer, then just leave and move on instead of trying to tell them why they're wrong.
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  10. #1170
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    I was running ST quite a few times yesterday (I ended up stopping after getting raider's derp/fatigue -ie pressing wrong buttons, derping mechanics you just did a million times, etc-, taking a break, then attempting to return on monk..... just as the disconnect madness started to ocurr) on my WHM....... and I keep finding myself supporting both my party and some other Alliance's party, every other run.

    Does anyone else end up like this, when running ST/Labrynth? Or is the general mindset just, "not my party, not my problem"?


    I noticed this after watching an alliance tank MTing a trash mob take a proverbial arrow to the knee. Tossed regen on the fella like normal.... he was... running pretty low... threw a few cures. Okay, maybe the their healers were doing something, I was just glancing at the Alliance tank's HP to see who's MTing. Glanced again... super low HP. Cure spam him again. I see it going down again... I'm thinking to myself, "ahahaha.....*nervous laugh* They'll cure spam him, don't micro-manage anyone other than your party..." Sliver HP left at next glance. Ohshitted a bene - too late. Mob just comes spppeeewwwing out onto everything and wipes half the room. After that, I started noticing this trend and trying to keep that from occurring again. Which I hate to not be able to trust the other alliances and start any bad habits on myself (by focusing too much on the alliances and not enough on my own).

    Of course, my party always takes priority - but I've had to take care of alliances members (tanks, mostly) almost like they're additional members to my own party (aka, they weren't getting enough from their own).... when I notice their HP bars just dropping like flies and left that way... Consistently... through out the whole raids. o_O I don't mind new people to the raid that may struggle a little, nor now and then throwing a raise or a cure spam or extra regen on another alliance's tank (I do on whom ever is MTing/getting damaged anyway) as a helping hand since shit does hit the fan, but I do mind when I end up having to super-babysit their alliance, on the side, when ever I have the chance. I just want to say, "There's two of you and nun'na you guys can keep an eye on your tank?".

    Luckily, the parties I've been in have been easy to keep fairly healthy with only one or two cases where shit was hitting fans (like the aforementioned mob drop) but we recovered well enough.

    And don't get me started on ninjas.... I have no idea why, but they're always the first to either flop on the floor like dead fish, or take massive damage at all times.... super low def, or just suicidal mindsets...? o_O
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    Last edited by Saseal; 11-18-2014 at 04:20 AM.

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