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  1. #11
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    Deuxclydion's Avatar
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    Lecroia Furinax
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    As a primary healer, I propose that the tanks let the aggro system perform its intended function and the problem will solve itself.

    However, I haven't really encountered this problem before in a systematic way. Is this happening in trials, dungeons, raids, or frontlines? And which ones? Specific dungeons, roulette, or what?
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  2. #12
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuxclydion View Post
    As a primary healer, I propose that the tanks let the aggro system perform its intended function and the problem will solve itself.

    However, I haven't really encountered this problem before in a systematic way. Is this happening in trials, dungeons, raids, or frontlines? And which ones? Specific dungeons, roulette, or what?
    It's any duty in which you find an inexperienced WHM with good intentions. Or a lazy/bad WHM who just couldn't care less.
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  3. #13
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    I wear tank gear so my medicas aren't too op. Also so what if enemies punch me for a few seconds i'll just stoneskin my self -> swiftcast stoneskin to mitigate emnity while medica 2 ticks and heals me. Tank should be able to grab hate by then if not, i question thee!
    If it isn't coil then probs won't be as big of a deal to ppl.
    Also cuz i think its from all this high geared ppl flooding into dungeons.
    Save your mana. Especially if you're in "tank gear". Reason being...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemonster View Post
    Remember that the tank can click it off.
    This is exactly what I do if I notice those things on before a pull anyway.

    Why should I have to fight you for hate? You aren't the tank. I am.

    Crap like this is why I hate tanking in DF unless I have at least a partial premade with me.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 11-14-2014 at 01:12 PM.

  4. #14
    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 90
    If your tanking and are initiating the fight. Click the regen/medical II off before engaging. So long as a DD with the medical II don't hit the target first the healer won't get aggro. Be smarter then that healer.
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  5. #15
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Character
    Cirra Maru
    World
    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Most DF WHMs I see heal like they are SCH main and they are expecting the HP to bump up automatically because they are not WHM mains.

    I don't think it's a trend, it might only be the small amount of WHM that you see in DF.
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  6. #16
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Wow...

    And here I was, feeling bad because people told me to stop spamming Divine Seal+Regen and to actually throw a Cure II instead.
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  7. #17
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    Beonka Taro
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    This happens often in ST and LotA. The worst part is when they start running around the arena with the mobs...
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  8. #18
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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    Well the Tank will get the Extra healing tick on him along side Regen but that's all I can think of.
    A whole 200/tick in exchange for getting mobs to beat on you for a few seconds, inconvenience your tank and melee DPS, and likely end up wasting more time as a result. Seems worth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuxclydion View Post
    Is this happening in trials, dungeons, raids, or frontlines? And which ones? Specific dungeons, roulette, or what?
    Expert roulette, ST, T4, EX primals. Maybe primal data center just has it worse, I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    I don't think it's a trend, it might only be the small amount of WHM that you see in DF.
    Look at some of the posts in this very thread. "Tank can just click them off." "Tank should be able to hold aggro through it anyways." No, it's more widespread than you think and it's sad people think they can get away with it by pinning the blame on the tank.

    If DPS get hurt, healers should be able to keep them up anyways so why bother trying to dodge AoEs, right?
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    Last edited by Lyrinn; 11-14-2014 at 03:39 PM.

  9. #19
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Imo none of it really matters as long as the mob/ boss dies and no one in ur party dies.
    Ego gets bruised, feelings get hurt, ppl get frustrated, rage quits happen. But it happens and imo a tank rage quitting is worse than a pre medica healer.
    I've seen tanks do this too often then ofc next replacement tank doesn't care and we continue on with ease and beat the dungeon.
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  10. #20
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    It's not a matter of being able to survive and let the situation rectify itself. There are literally zero - Z. E. R. O. - reasons to pre-cast a Medica II or use during a pull. Please, by all means, do come up with a valid reason. I would love to hear it.
    Brayflox hm speed runs.
    Tanks just pull pull pull and expect healers to dps and heal. Valid reason because a lot of us has done the mythflox brainflop tome run farm back when it was the go to thing.
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