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    Any M.M.O. that tries to get away with 2 or more business models will find that its player base is going to quickly shrink as a result.
    Subscription based or Micro transactions with cash shop. Best decide before you lose too many people. We're not stupid. We know this is a blatant Cash Grab by S.E.. Fact is people are quitting already cause of this. Why? Because they know exacting where it leads to more and more of the same old shit. Cash in while you can. Alas the more you do it the more people leave. You'll be luckily if you break even from sub loses in your cash shop. The more people leave the larger you're forced make your shop. The larger your shop the more people leave. Keep shooting yourself in foot it'll feel better sooner of later right? Just keep shooting XD. Shrink your player base and squeeze whats left for the money you lose. Like said we're fucking stupid. Past time you people at S.E. figure that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I guess I'll never be able to wrap my head around what your thinking.

    Just trust me when I say that not a dime SE is making on the cash shop is being put back into the game, not a single penny.
    I would but what are you basing this on? I need some convincing and your sweet talk aint doing it for me 0__O
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    VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET AND UNSUB! D:<

    But you won't, because you're all bark and no bite.
    IN FACT! I'll bet most of the complainers will go right into that cash shop they so hate and spend oodles of moonies on the different knickknacks and services there-in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    I would but what are you basing this on? I need some convincing and your sweet talk aint doing it for me 0__O

    Square Enix pays their staff like any company a sallary or hourly wage. Them having more money isn't going to suddenly make them want to spend it on the game, it's just going to boost their bottom line.

    Unless Square Enix is hiring new members for the development team, the exact same ammount of work is going to be done on FFXIV today as it was tomorrow, the operating budget will likewise remain the same, likewise anything expensive like moving servers wont be looked at until the companies next budget meeting and trust me that "Cash shop revenue" is not in a collum of the spreadsheet the bean counters will be using when they decide if moving the servers to EU is a profitable move for the company.

    The EU data center will happen only if and when SE feels they would gain more customers than the cost of implementing the data center would cost, not a single thought will be givin to how much cash shop is generating comes into that decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoskai View Post
    VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET AND UNSUB! D:<
    That's one option but a extreme one at best. Trust me a few people will probably not let their subscription renew due to the cash shop.

    The real clincher is if people make enough purchases to justify the cost of developing content aside from the main game. (This of course is only possible if they aren't just stripping existing content from the game or development team to place into the cash shop ala Odin mount)
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    Last edited by Jynx; 11-14-2014 at 10:46 AM.

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    Um I think it's a good idea SE is doing that. Either make the costumes tradeable or sell them in the cash shop.
    A lot of people liked the lightening returns stuff and were bummed out they missed it. Do you expect SE to keep doing the same events with the same rewards? I hope not. Selling the old stuff and coming up with new rewards for future events is good in my opinion. Instead of just missing out on it entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Square Enix pays their staff like any company a sallary or hourly wageno shit?. Them having more money isn't going to suddenly make them want to spend it on the game...yes it will..., it's just going to boost their bottom line.as will putting more effort into an ongoing game that costs QUITE A BIT LESS than a new IP or another FF(we all know how well that went recently)

    Unless Square Enix is hiring new members for the development teammore money means they could, the exact same ammount of work is going to be done on FFXIV today as it was tomorrowOR MORE! , the operating budget will likewise remain the sameor it could be higher, likewise anything expensive like moving servers wont be looked at until the companies next budget meeting and trust me that "Cash shop revenue" is not in a collum of the spreadsheet the bean counters will be using when they decide if moving the servers to EU is a profitable move for the company.

    The EU data center will happen only if and when SE feels they would gain more customers than the cost of implementing the data center would cost, not a single thought will be givin to how much cash shop is generating comes into that decision.
    Forum Posters:Honing bullshit and faux knowledge to the Nth degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    That's one option but a extreme one at best. Trust me a few people will probably not let their subscription renew due to the cash shop.

    The real clincher is if people make enough purchases to justify the cost of developing content aside from the main game. (This of course is only possible if they aren't just stripping existing content from the game or development team to place into the cash shop ala Odin mount)

    Thanks so much for taking me seriously when I totally wasn't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoskai View Post
    VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET AND UNSUB! D:<

    But you won't, because you're all bark and no bite.
    IN FACT! I'll bet most of the complainers will go right into that cash shop they so hate and spend oodles of moonies on the different knickknacks and services there-in.
    You're exactly right on all counts. No amount of protests will be heard without the actions to back them up. Which is why i just unsubscribed.
    And I've got nothing to prove to anyone but myself in this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy_Dresden View Post
    You're exactly right on all counts. No amount of protests will be heard without the actions to back them up. Which is why i just unsubscribed.
    And I've got nothing to prove to anyone but myself in this matter.
    Now all you have to do is never sub again 'till they nix the cash shop.
    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoskai View Post
    Now all you have to do is never sub again 'till they nix the cash shop.
    Good luck!
    That's the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy_Dresden View Post
    That's the idea.
    That Heavensward expansion looks pretty shiny...
    Makes you feel kinda... I dunno... sub happy?
    Sure makes me feel sub happy, all that new content and airships and giant sky whales.
    Looks like it might be a lot o' fun flyin' around in the sky and exploring Skylandiamerica™.(plz dun stale)
    All that shiny loot... That one over there looks kinda like something you've always wanted on your catgirl.

    Seriously though, good luck.
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