Bard needs some love too.

[Warlyx]

Zzzz i wake up and now this is full of nonsense. Like if i care if people pull high dps on dummy, you don't balance the game around dummy or a lazy Bard that doesn't have bfb and doesn't keep straight shot up but thinks hes doing fine because the people in his group are even worst than that.

People that still haven't beat the second coil telling me that we are there only to support when in the new content everyone needs high dps or you will wipe to enrage.
People telling me that i can repelling shot in t11 thinking i speak about nerve gas and they clearly ignored my post and don't know about the mechanic of having to be close to the boss to remove the invulnerability buff.
People telling me that less Melee would be easier for people in t11 because they asume the melee will derp and wipe doing pos attack, and it's actually better to have melee because Mages are not that good for the add phase.

Our gear scales like really bad, our weapon damage is a joke. Make some research Bard is not fine, people think it is because of our Songs but i don't know what's so hard to understand that we are a dps, not a healer or a support job.


To put it simple if Nin had the option to give mana we wouldn't have any place in raids. And in the future this might happen because Nin brings good utility and good damage, and ballad isn't not that important if people are not diying a lot.

[Exstal]

I remember when Ninja could use Foe's Requiem for 25s. Oh, also that raidwide Goad is pretty awesome too.

The only point I will concede to you is Bard gear scales terribly. But on that same token, so does healer gear.

[Rose-Wild]

Why would Nin need the goad for all the group when the only jobs burning TP so quick are Bard and Monk and well Pala if he uses fracture.... If there's no Bard then goad is enough to keep the Monk going.

[Exstal]

Why would Nin need the goad for all the group when the only jobs burning TP so quick are Bard and Monk and well Pala if he uses fracture.... If there's no Bard then goad is enough to keep the Monk going.

If there is no Bard, then the next best composition is NIN/MNK/MNK/caster. You can only use Goad on 1 Monk, who do you choose?

[Rose-Wild]

If there is no Bard, then the next best composition is NIN/MNK/MNK/caster. You can only use Goad on 1 Monk, who do you choose?

Simple. One Monk saves invigorate, the other one doesn't, the Nin uses goat on the Monk that is saving it and will have it back by the time the one that used it needs it.

[Exstal]

So basically, Ninja needs to have Ballad, Foe's and keep their Goad then Bard would have no spot in the party? Why do I see that not happening?

There's also no reason for SE to waste Ninja job skills on support skills when there is a class that is supposed to be that way.

[ServerCollaps]

As someone who mains as a bard, we are in a good spot at the moment. Having those dmg penalty while singing songs allows bard to be smart when it comes to using it. Also don't underestimate bard dps too much I've seen bards do 400-350 dps in t8 and I know there are some capable of doing more.

uhm, give me goad/tp song and disembowl and I also reach 480 dps in t8 as bard

[Necato]

Bards need some love, but some buff ? Hmm I would say no to that.
As most of us I think I didn't welcome the nerf on Rain Of Death. Who needs evasion debuff anyway ?! But the ting is, one class can't rule them all. We can't have all the funny buffs/debuff AND the DPS.

We have a decent DPS, a huge burst, and utility. I won't speak about mobility because to me, this thing is more of a curse than a blessing. Yeah I can move, sure... but being out of range of Melusine while kiting, eating two landmines so I have to run accross the room without Avatar being auto-attacked, placing marks for T9's divebombs (well it doesn't require movement...), that hurts my numbers.
Besides I'm pretty sure SMN can do damage while moving too, that's why they have DoTs and a freaking pet. Unless Ruin is their only offensive spell ?

Anyway, our damage is fine. Once the whole group know the fight, it's even better. Without unnecessary Army/Ballad we're really fine. We won't be Top DPS but nothing to be ashamed of.
I myself am second to our BLM in our static. Higher than DRG & SMN on most of the fights.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Bards who only look at their DPS numbers to judge if their job needs a buff or not might as well go play another class, 'cause clearly they are not suited to be Bards.

[Eirwen]

To think that BRD used to be overpowered and they nerfed it...
Having the healer LB as a DPS is nice, and I saved my group a few times with it, I do often wish we got a DPS LB, like a huge, effing arrow being shot at all the targets within a fan-shaped area in front of us.