Why is tanking so rough for new players?

[Ghastly]

I found the marking menu that FFXIV doesn't even bring up.

When you start maurader or gladiator quests or any time after the game doesn't even tell you or advise you to mark. That's the problem, are we suppose to magically know about marking? Much less where to find the marking menu?

You're right though, I started tanking like 3 weeks ago and the marking makes it easier, specially in the low level dungeons. For high level dungeons most tanks have many skills for aoe aggroing so marking is not too required.

And also, you have no right to call anyone lazy when you don't know their circumstance.

[Doki]

If they can't hold hate, they aren't spamming flash enough, and both DPS are attacking separate targets instead of focusing.

[LalaRu]

The only tanks I see unable to hold hate are the ones who aren't even trying/doing it wrong.

This thing, say by someone that doesn't even tried to run a Tank? You serious?

Tank at low level is quite non-existant, and as now as the game is mature enough to have quite often endgame players on low level duties, tanking them is almost impossible.

BLM got some adjustments that almost doubled their aggro, and if a i110 BLM is with a i20 Tank, he just needs sit down and wait all the time if don't want get aggro. Or else, burn mobs off not caring the aggro, as long as they will hardly die there.

And all people that are "bla blablah l2tank", I question if they ever tried to run a tank from scratch, or are already i110 and bashing people here as a revenge of the same bashing they got when leveling their tank when was crappy ilevel.

Then, we can add all jerks who go for hit the mobs in a different order than you marked, at the sole scope of trolling you: an expert tank will let them eat their mobs and ask healer don't heal them. A beginner will try to get hate back without luck and may be abort tanking, thinking to just be not good.

It is NOT tanking rough, they are the players, that have (questionable) fun with the tank.

[Sadana]

Because tank low-level skills do not generate enmity fast enough in proportion to the amount of damage (and therefore enmity) generated by dps (or healing by healers). Also because a level-synced player will rip hate off a lower-level, lesser-geared tank (almost) no matter what, unless they purposely slow down and watch their own aggro.

And because a tank is expected to lead the way in a dungeon and know the mechanics even if it's his first time there.

[Symbiant]

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We can just sum it up nice and neat. The problem is that most dps (not all) think that all they need to do is plow into what ever mob and the tank needs to hold hate. I see a lot of sux tank post. I think most people do not realize that everyone has a job. Tanks job is to hold hate to the best of his / her ability while doing mechanics. The dps job is to dps to the best of his / her ability w/o taking hate while doing mechanics. Healers is the same thing. Everyone not just the tank needs to watch hate.

I do understand that end game content we have massive dps checks and we have to push as hard as we can. The simple fact is in either low lvl or end game if the tank loses aggro you have a good chance of a wipe. So watch your hate.

[Ghastly]

I still feel that the job of the tank is the hardest.

Between dodging, stunning, using skills that lower damage taken, aggro, and moving bosses around. Compared to simple damage to bosses that the DPS do, that's a lot.

I still remember the times I've used stuff like holmgang or Inner beast to save us from wiping

[MomomiMomi]

This thing, say by someone that doesn't even tried to run a Tank? You serious?

You're right, this is my only character. It's not like I have 7 others, and three more that I've since deleted.

I've also never seen the difference between good and bad tanks in my hundreds of dungeons as a healer. Nope.

[Recaldy]

I spam flash to about 50% hp then spam riot blade rotation. By the end of a target's hp I just stun-lock'em.

[lvlagmarink]

snip.

But getting hate for MRD is so easy especially if u have flash, which would be unlocked if you want to get WAR anyway. You have both TP and MP as yer friend. I dont even use voke until around stone vigil and so on. Provoke gives me further range to pull, works so nice in AV.
I do know the sad part of tanking, i'm playing in both chaos and elemental data center, the THM, in spite of their high int cant count # mark in chaos.. And most people who's playing with controller are too lazy to change target, said it's too much of a hassle, so let's just hit the closest mob.
When it's the community which is the one at fault, its not fair to put all the blame to developers
The elemental mostly use sleep strategy, so i find it suprising if i dont put mark, the whm or thm will mark em up.

[lvlagmarink]

There is of course, lack explanation of how one create emnity, the "buffed" enmity skill have only "increase enmity" written in their desc.. While provoke is giving "gesture thretenly, increasing enmity in target".. You just wont know how they work unless you spend hours and hours to figure em out, somebody tell you, or you are a very bright person who instantly know how to use them properly..