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  1. #161
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    RaineAmorie's Avatar
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    Jojorito Zazarito
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    Constant 90k's for about 4 days now. I get about 7 minutes online before being DC'd again. Instances are impossible, FATEs are miserable at best and Just running around is a struggle with the constant rubber band lag. I'm on PS4, direct lined into my router, which makes this all the more ridiculous. Brynhildr, Primal Data Center.

    I'm in VA, USA - Comcast
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  2. #162
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    This is absolute insanity. Starting a few days back I can no longer stay logged on for more than 5 minutes at a time before getting 90k error. It's like the game runs on a timer and proceeds to boot me no matter what I do. I live in Europe, on Chaos datacenter playing on PC.
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  3. #163
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    Raist Soulforge
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaineAmorie View Post
    Constant 90k's for about 4 days now. I get about 7 minutes online before being DC'd again. Instances are impossible, FATEs are miserable at best and Just running around is a struggle with the constant rubber band lag. I'm on PS4, direct lined into my router, which makes this all the more ridiculous. Brynhildr, Primal Data Center.

    I'm in VA, USA - Comcast
    Sounds a lot like the usual suspects.... (note these images will update periodically as the maps get archived)

    https://downdetector.com/status/playstation-network


    There's lots of tweets about PS3/4 problems at the source page for the map... PSN itself has been having big problems the last week or so. It's nothing unusual... been happening since PS4 launched. But to add insult to injury, the last firmware is knackered up pretty bad too on top of it (they announced Tuesday a new one is in the works to resolve a lot of issues).

    And then there's the typical routing issues that are likely coming into play as well. Comcast subscribers throughout the northeast have been having issues:

    https://downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity




    More on the general topic of this thread though, keep in mind that internet usage has been on a steady and fast increase since late Spring/Early Summer as well. Akamai tracks a lot of statistics on web usage:

    October peaks: over 170 Billion hits/sec on 10/28, over 215 Billion streams on 10/31. Compare that to the peaks in April: 35 Billion hits/sec on 4/05 and 76 Billion streams on 4/23.

    Here are some direct links to some of the tools available at the same Akamai page I linked for those stats:
    http://www.akamai.com/html/technology/dataviz1.html - Real Time web monitor. At 10 AM Eastern on a Saturday morning, global usage is up 29%--UK seems to be highest on usage. Real-time latency indexes to specific points are showing a 2x to 5x rise over their average in 3 key US areas they monitor in the US. The UK is showing 3x-10x, and Asia is registering 8x-10x

    http://www.akamai.com/html/technolog...try/index.html - Net Usage by Industry. Can filter by type of traffic, as well as by region. Retail is currently showing +35% globally, Broadcasting is up 57%, Gaming is up 17%, Media/Entertainment is up 32%, Social Media is up 53% - that's global stats at 10:20 AM Eastern time on a Saturday morning. All of those numbers remain on the plus side even when you filter down to just North America---and the West Coast still hasn't even cranked up yet either.

    Our infrastructure is just limping along trying to deal with all the cord cutters and other factors steadily increasing our dependency on the internet in general. Need to hold our ISP's accountable to enhance their peering/transit agreements to address all the congestion in our routes. It's not just speculation either.. it's a well known fact in the industry. Both Level3 and TATA have been going after the regulators for years trying to get things addressed. In the last year, Level3 has begun posting on these issues on their blog... hoping to raise awareness of the different problems to put pressure on the powers that be to actually DO something about them. Here are a few articles that may help people gain a better understanding on what is going on:

    "Chicken" | A Game Played as a Child and by some ISPs with the Internet (March, 2014)
    Observations of an Internet Middleman (May, 2014)
    Verizon’s Accidental Mea Culpa (July, 2014)
    “Not” Neutrality? (Sept., 2014)

    Quoting specifically that last one, as it gets to a major point on the issues pretty quickly and directly. Brought over the URL links as well, as they further demonstrate some of what is going on. I would strongly recommend you guys read up on these issues--we need more informed consumers out there putting pressure on these guys, be that with their wallets or by putting pressure on their congressional representatives and/or the regulatory commissions. WE can and NEED to demand better from the people we purchase our service from--these problems are NOT SE's responsibility to address, but the people we pay for our internet services.

    In early May, my Internet Middleman post described how a tiny number of very large broadband network operators, mostly in the United States, are using their market power to try to extract arbitrary access charges, and in so doing, are degrading the service they sold to their paying broadband customers. They achieve this degradation by refusing to add bandwidth at the interconnect points between their networks and other very large global networks, like Level 3’s. Despite this, some of them claim that they are unconditionally committed to Net Neutrality. They can do this because, as Mike Mooney pointed out, the old Net Neutrality rules had a gaping hole in them: since these rules did not explicitly include Internet interconnection in their scope, they allowed broadband providers to discriminate against third-party Internet traffic by causing bottlenecks at Internet interconnection points – and hurting consumers in the process.

    But it is now late September. So what has changed? Well, let us look at three large Local Exchange Carriers (LECs) in the United States. These LECs are telephone companies that built broadband networks on the back of monopoly-funded telephone infrastructure. Over the past six months, the utilization of each interconnection location between their networks and Level 3’s has changed as shown in the following diagram.



    Each number shows utilization at one of the interconnection locations in various cities throughout the United States between Level 3 and the LECs. Utilization above 85% indicates the LEC is causing congestion in that city by refusing to add interconnection capacity

    This shows a dramatic improvement for LEC1 and LEC3, but a continued degradation for LEC2. You might say that it’s good news overall. But if you value an open Internet underpinned by a dynamic competitive environment, you may have a different opinion.

    And that’s because the reason the interconnect utilization between Level 3 and LEC1 and LEC3 improved is that these LECs forced Netflix to pay them to interconnect directly with them. And as Netflix CEO Reed Hastings has pointed out several times, Netflix didn’t do that because they were taking advantage of a highly competitive Internet marketplace. They did it because they had no choice: all third-party content that LEC broadband users want to see eventually has to go through LEC interconnection points. When the LEC tries to turn these interconnection points into Internet tollbooths there is no alternate path for the content to take to reach the consumers.

    How long will it be before LEC2 degrades the quality of service to their end customers to the point that Netflix is forced to pay them too? And how can LEC2 promise a new 1Gbps broadband service even though it is refusing to allow content that its consumers have requested into its network? In fact, some of their launch cities are also where the interconnect locations are severely congested with 97% utilization. Locations where LEC2 seems happy to simply discard Internet content that their customers have requested, for hours and hours every day. Locations where download speeds for such third-party content cannot possibly get close to 1Gbps – or other “high-speed” services they have sold to their customers.

    Level 3 and other Internet content providers are not afraid of competition. The Internet needs Net Neutrality and fair and equitable interconnection to continue to grow and thrive. But what broadband providers are offering instead is “Not” Neutrality: a competitive distortion made possible by the monopoly control they have over access to their customers. These broadband providers are willing to degrade the performance of the service they sell to their customers to extract arbitrary access charges, discriminate against third-party Internet content and harm competition.

    We have made concrete proposals (see our previous blog post) to ensure LECs and other broadband providers actually make available the Internet access bandwidth they have already sold to their consumers at interconnection points without congestion and without arbitrary access charges. Consumers should expect no less from their broadband providers.
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  4. #164
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    Wilbert's Avatar
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    9000 error now. Can't stay logged in for more then 5 sec... before it boots me.
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  5. #165
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    Beeba Belew
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    been experiencing issue for the last 4 hours from about 15:30 (GMT) playing US excalibur being thrown off line constantly with error 9000 or error 2002. lost a lot of dungeons in the process now cant play for more than about `15 minutes without crashing. on each occasion i do reboot route pc etc.

    using a pc have a 120mb www internet connection
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  6. #166
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    Sora_Synn's Avatar
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    Sora Synn
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    For the last 2 hours or more I have not been able to log into my main character without getting severe lag and error 9000 and 10105 and the other one... 2002? Something like that. And yet when I log into my Lalafell alt character I have no lag or error in connection.

    This is very frustrating and I hope a solution can be found.
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  7. #167
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    Zeth Ryder
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    Hyperion
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    Also getting this issue, keep lagging/rubberbanding/90king/DCing.
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  8. #168
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    Lokisama's Avatar
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    Loki Fimafeng
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I started to experience this today, yesterday my game was working just fine but today when i logged in and played a bit suddenly i started to get these 90k errors first i though it was my WTfast but it does it without WTfast running also
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  9. #169
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    Zealotius Arkimedes
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    Since patch 2.4, all dungeons give me very bad lag. Yu know the one, go into battle OK then everything stops moving and yu are suddenly dead.

    I know living in Australia is the totally wrong thing to do but I don't have enough money to move closer to Japan on the US. This is erring me on the unsubscribing tendencies I have been having, perhaps Final Fantasy XIV really is just not for, well, a Final Fantasy fan like myself.
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  10. #170
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    Raelynn Lovelace
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    Quote Originally Posted by NationOfZealots View Post
    Since patch 2.4, all dungeons give me very bad lag. Yu know the one, go into battle OK then everything stops moving and yu are suddenly dead.

    I know living in Australia is the totally wrong thing to do but I don't have enough money to move closer to Japan on the US. This is erring me on the unsubscribing tendencies I have been having, perhaps Final Fantasy XIV really is just not for, well, a Final Fantasy fan like myself.
    I'm getting the exact same problem, and i'm from Canada
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