Myth Message being used to excluded players

[Michizane]

I'm sure I'm not the only person sick of this, but it is getting nearly impossible to get a party to clear old content (and even some newer content) if you didn't get clear with in the first two weeks of that content being released.

Everyone is using the Myth message (Soldiery now) to find out who's new, and if you haven't cleared, your gone. It doesn't even matter how far you've gotten into a fight. It has become so that think that 'No clear' equals 'No good" when that isn't the case. How are you to clear something if only those who have cleared it can join groups for it?

The Myth Message was suppose to encourage people to help others clear content, but instead it is being used to keep those who need clear from doing said content. Frankly, the message at the start of dungeons/raids/trials needs to be removed so that people aren't getting singled out, and instead only say at the end of a dungeon you are being rewarded with a bonus for helping someone with clear.

[Laerune]

It works the other way for me,when people see the Soldiery message I see alot of 'Yes, YAY" etc. Its true that this message might encourage players to exclude others from doing a dungeon with them, but this same message might also be a incentive for those that want to farm the Soldiery to stay and finish the dungeon with this newcomer.

[Riepah]

In dungeons and Hard primals I'm always happy about new people for free bonus rewards, but in Extreme primals it's a much less welcome sight.

[Firepower]

Yeah i'm happy for free soldiery in Hard mode primals, dungeons and Syrcus tower where it doesn't matter if they know the fight or not because it's not going to affect the clear. Get that message in T5 or any extreme primal and it can greatly affect your chances of clearing the content especially if it is a tank or healer. Although it is not indicative of a bad player it increases the chances simply because someone without the message should know all the mechanics to of cleared it previously.

[LunarEmerald]

If people want a farm party then obviously they only want people who have cleared it. The blame is on you if you try to sneak in for a kill.

[Ivy_Dresden]

If people want a farm party then obviously they only want people who have cleared it. The blame is on you if you try to sneak in for a kill.

That is a community building statement if i ever heard it.
People like this tend to charge other player for their "help" to clear harder content in game. Does that sound like fun to you?

[Sakuraluna]

That is a community building statement if i ever heard it.
People like this tend to charge other player for their "help" to clear harder content in game. Does that sound like fun to you?

Obviously if that person is sticking up for the behavior, they're probably familiar with that aspect of it. Tbh we'd need to know more about the circumstances around OP being singled out and kicked before making an assumption either way. If it happened in a DF party or was otherwise never specified that it was not a learning party then yeah, they're asses. If it happened in a PF farm party then it kind of is the OP's fault.

[SanjuroXI]

Quit trying to sneak a carry because thats all your doing. If your new makea learning party or join one. Dont join a farm party though and expect them to carry you because your lazy.

[Ellatrix]

That is a community building statement if i ever heard it.
People like this tend to charge other player for their "help" to clear harder content in game. Does that sound like fun to you?

Don't join farm parties if you're unable to farm. That means you don't join unless you've killed it a few times. Stop wasting other player's time cause you don't wanna spend the time to learn the fight like they did.

[Michizane]

What happen is I'll joined a party T7 in PF which doesn't say that it is a farm, I'll tell them I have made it to the last part of the fight, but just haven't gotten clear, and be kicked. If I say nothing they will find out via myth message. I know the fight down pat and my gear is ilv110. There just isn't anyone doing it anymore that will have people who haven't cleared. I quit the game for a few months when Second Coil was introduced, so I didn't get clear when content is new. So it really has nothing to do with me being deceiving or not knowing fight. I just want to clear the dang thing so I can farm it without people kicking me.

*edit* Also the Shiva EX fight has been out for only two weeks and people won't take anyone who hasn't clear anymore on my server which is complete bull...