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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliph View Post
    The patch notes as well as personal experience say you are wrong.
    many of my FC say I'm right. I don't think you have been punished for this lockout yet.

    several of my FC got punished for being in party with someone who decided they had to do something without saying anything. the DF duty popped and they got locked out for 30 minutes. NONE of them had missed the button or clicked withdraw before that.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 11-09-2014 at 08:07 PM.

  2. #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    many of my FC say I'm right. I don't think you have been punished for this lockout yet.

    several of my FC got punished for being in party with someone who decided they had to do something without saying anything. the DF duty popped and they got locked out for 30 minutes. NONE of them had missed the button or clicked withdraw before that.
    They got trolled, or aren't being honest with you... I have personally tested this lockout system. 3 strikes = first penalty, each strike after gets a penalty, strikes reset at 9am pst.
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliph View Post
    They got trolled, or aren't being honest with you... I have personally tested this lockout system. 3 strikes = first penalty, each strike after gets a penalty, strikes reset at 9am pst.
    and the time for the penalty doesn't change each time? cause some people including myself got the idea that you would be locked out for the day at some point.
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  4. #294
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    Half hour penalty, the only thing "24 hours" about this system is the daily strike reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliph View Post
    Half hour penalty, the only thing "24 hours" about this system is the daily strike reset.
    well this would explain why some are still trolling the DF. they just don't care about a 30 minute lockout.

    if SE really wants to stop the trolls they need to redo this.
    it should be personal punishment only.(meaning only the user who hits withdraw or doesn't click before the timer is up)
    the 3rd time gets you 30 minutes.
    the 4th gets you an hour.
    the 5th gets you locked out till the reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    well this would explain why some are still trolling the DF. they just don't care about a 30 minute lockout.

    if SE really wants to stop the trolls they need to redo this.
    it should be personal punishment only.(meaning only the user who hits withdraw or doesn't click before the timer is up)
    the 3rd time gets you 30 minutes.
    the 4th gets you an hour.
    the 5th gets you locked out till the reset.
    See you've just left a massive loop hole for the trolls with "It should be personal punishment only".

    All they have to do is group up and then they have two free passes each at trolling the DF. So a group of two could do it four times before receiving a penalty, group of three could do it six times and so on.
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  7. #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellisin View Post
    See you've just left a massive loop hole for the trolls with "It should be personal punishment only".

    All they have to do is group up and then they have two free passes each at trolling the DF. So a group of two could do it four times before receiving a penalty, group of three could do it six times and so on.
    I do not understand your thought process. People with penalty cannot queue in a party. How would anyone get a free pass to troll?

    As it is currently innocent people are punsihed by lazy afk people who cannot even be bothered to type three letters or party leaders who can't be bothered with ready checks.
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  8. #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-a-l-a-n-m-e-r-c-e-r View Post
    I do not understand your thought process. People with penalty cannot queue in a party. How would anyone get a free pass to troll?

    As it is currently innocent people are punsihed by lazy afk people who cannot even be bothered to type three letters or party leaders who can't be bothered with ready checks.
    They only get a penalty after three strikes. Therefore they can withdraw two times without penalty before not being able to queue. Now if you have system that wildsprite suggests there is a loop hole for the trolls.

    So three strikes you get a penalty which prevents you from queuing. Now to get round this if it not implemented as a joint strike would be rather simple. You have a party with three players we'll call them A,B & C. Now they have between them six free passes before a penalty will be applied to any off them.

    They queue up. Player A does two troll pops. Doesn't get a penalty - no strikes against B or C. B repeats the process & then C repeats the process. So they just done six troll pops with no penalty against a single player due to no joint strike system. If they didn't care about lock out. They could push it to nine troll pops, with one member dropping from the party as each one gets a locked out. Its rather simple loop hole and relatively easy to see why its a joint strike system.

    As for last point. Maybe people need not queue with lazy people and do ready checks.
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    Last edited by Fellisin; 11-10-2014 at 01:04 AM.

  9. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    and the time for the penalty doesn't change each time? cause some people including myself got the idea that you would be locked out for the day at some point.
    please tell me how one is supposed to miss/withdraw from queue more than 3 times if you get locked out for a full day? its already been explained, its a 30 minute lock out after the third time, and another 30 minutes for anymore withdraws after that third one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Ready Check. You see an X next to them? Don't click.
    If on VoIP software: "Are you ready?"
    No Response? Don't click commence.

    The issue is already solved.
    You have control over this when you are the party leader yes. But most of the time when you are not the party leader you have no control over weather or not they ready check most groups I been in just queue up and don't realize someone is afk.
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