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  1. #31
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    I think DRG in overall is in need of a DPS buff that puts him along MNK and above NIN. (to really match skill-reward gameplay, it can`t be that you have to play your best as DRG and even then still do less than MNK or even NIN not even on their best)
    It can come in the form of increased skill potency (rising CT, Phb tick potency, increasing jump and spineshatter damages would help a lot).

    The magic def issue, is really, something we need to live with, DRG is supposedly a glasscannon, well, i right now we are just glass cause the cannons are all in other classes but us. And still we are the one who have to play harder. Seeing NIN playing and achiving such higher levels of damage feels almost like if they use cheatengine.
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  2. #32
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    Novaura's Avatar
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    Character
    Matthia Gryffine
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    The only issue I do agree on is the compromised Magic Defense. Other than that I have no issue with the Dragoon class.

    I have earned a tremendous reputation in my FC as the resident Dragoon. When we do Coil raids, we always go Solo Tank and I play Off Tank because we know that it produces results. My FC knows that when they need to take on a challenge, help out a new FC member or get an established member to achieve their goals, they know they can turn to me because they know they can count on me.

    Even with the introduction of the Rogue/Ninja class and with several of our members having already reached LV 50 Ninja, the FC still turns their resident Dragoon.

    It tells me that the Dragoon is still as important and as formidable of a DPS class as it has ever been. That brings a smile to my face knowing that when I entered Realm Reborn, initially unaware that Lancers become Dragoons that I made the right choice for the type of hero that I would become in the game.
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  3. #33
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    Zaranghae's Avatar
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    Nanako Chan
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Giving healers less heart attacks when taking unavoidable magic damage is still helping I guess? It's like when you screwed something up and then you look at someone who has that disapproval look at you and you nervously laugh. Except it's out of your hands.
    But it's not like dragoons will hit 1 hp out of 5000 hp and monks and brds will be at 2500. I've never encountered a situation where healers would have to apply an AOE heal and then individually supplement a dragoon with a cure/cure2. It seems like people are just complaining more about the pretty number stats than the actual application.
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    Last edited by Zaranghae; 11-09-2014 at 07:08 AM.

  4. #34
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    WTB more magic defense PM with offer.
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  5. #35
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    People don't get it. They aren't top DPS because they can act as a back up tanks. Aswell as titan can in a pinch.

    Because of this utility they don't get top tier DPS.

    As for all the LOL DRG dead screen shot. lots of DRG Play stupid because if this extra defense, vs playing smart and moving.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  6. #36
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    Seoki's Avatar
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    Swift Slaughter
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    People don't get it. They aren't top DPS because they can act as a back up tanks. Aswell as titan can in a pinch.

    Because of this utility they don't get top tier DPS.

    As for all the LOL DRG dead screen shot. lots of DRG Play stupid because if this extra defense, vs playing smart and moving.

    That's not relevant.

    Warriors can do amazing DPS

    Because of that utility they don't get to be top tier tank.

    OH WAIT.
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  7. #37
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    People don't get it. They aren't top DPS because they can act as a back up tanks. Aswell as titan can in a pinch.

    Because of this utility they don't get top tier DPS.

    As for all the LOL DRG dead screen shot. lots of DRG Play stupid because if this extra defense, vs playing smart and moving.
    No Enmity generating skills (ironically as an Enmity reduction one though), terrible cooldowns for tanking, loses Heavy Trust from being in the front therefore doing even less damage which will mean lost of threat (if they ever get it to begin with). There's nothing about a dragoon except a decent HP pool (which is useless without the mitigation) that even remotely says offtank.

    Where you really being serious ? This is the first time I ever see someone even make this claim.
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    Last edited by Dwill; 11-09-2014 at 07:53 AM.

  8. #38
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    RegentP's Avatar
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    Character
    Roy Fokker
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I don't like the 2.4 buff, while my jumps are faster they are putting me out of sync with my rotation reborn. Stuff comes up much faster than I need them to be ready thus pushing for saving for maxima damage.
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  9. #39
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Lol, a SMN titan is a better backup tank than a DRG will ever be...sometimes even better than an OT.

    Anyways, I've been one shotted by the Sastasha 1st boss plenty of times as a DRG and seen other DRGs get one shotted as well compared to other classes who barely survive with critical hp
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  10. #40
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    Sentinillia's Avatar
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    Sentinillia Emilie
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    People don't get it. They aren't top DPS because they can act as a back up tanks. Aswell as titan can in a pinch.

    Because of this utility they don't get top tier DPS.

    As for all the LOL DRG dead screen shot. lots of DRG Play stupid because if this extra defense, vs playing smart and moving.
    What you call a "back up tank" is 2 attacks worth of damage. With elusive jump in use for repositioning you won't even be anywhere near the top of enmity 90% of the time anyway.
    DRG would be fine with their current DPS throughput if they did infact have some form of utility like bards do for example. But they don't.
    I did tank Ifrit HM as a joke once, but then again that could have been any DPS with the amount of heals I was receiving.

    I think SE has this idea about an off-tank job but sadly ideas don't make it a viable application.
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