Archer's future

[Ferth]

The warrior job was news to me... I had completely forgot about archer and I was trying to figure out if marauder would maybe be paladin and gla be bard to mirror thancred.

Honestly, the job list from the interview (paired with the non-official translation) leaves alot to ambiguity. Speculating at this point is probably going to be way off the mark, since we have alot of square pegs with round holes... not to mention not enough holes for all the pegs to begin with.

[MartaDemireux]

Actually, I was just playing Final Fantasy V again and it dawned on me that you get the Hunter and Bard jobs at the same time (no others come with them). Maybe this is their way of tying the game into the series even more? I'll be much less surprised should they give ARC the BRD job now.

[Betelgeuzah]

I see Archers having the same damage capabilities as they do now. Maybe with more versatility.

Job-wise after this last patch IMO Bard is the perfect fit for Archer. The short-range melees will keep their role as the primary DPS while Bard takes a more supporting damage-type role.

[mmk]

Actually, I was just playing Final Fantasy V again and it dawned on me that you get the Hunter and Bard jobs at the same time (no others come with them). Maybe this is their way of tying the game into the series even more? I'll be much less surprised should they give ARC the BRD job now.

were you doing the ffv for futures thing also? :P

[Kinseykinz]

It makes sense for Archer to get Bard. Again, they want you to have the ability to solo or play in a group. A plain old Bard (think ffxi for a moment) is a tasty treat to most mobs, but and Archer/Bard would be a force to be reckoned with.

Also, as others have pointed out, the Uldah Storyline Bard is no wuss, and I doubt they intend the class to just be a backline job. Lastly, archers DO stand in the perfect 'Party Buffer' position. An archer can buff both the mages AND the DD's without running back and forth too much (Again, think ffxi and bards trying to keep magic buffs on mages and damage buffs on DDs without over-crossing them).

[Gath]

Only things that matter, and would make sense would be...

PUG ---> THF
MSK ---> COR ;O

Nobody else matters, because I'm better than you all.

[MartaDemireux]

were you doing the ffv for futures thing also? :P

No idea what that is o.O?

Edit: I was fiddling with the GBA re-released version if that's what you're asking. /confused lol

[Scape]

The PIE on almost all the new bows threw me off as well.

I kinda looked at it as melee have 3 stats to build. STR/VIT/DEX. And mages had 3. PIE/MND/INT(aware lots of mages build VIT too). I am already having enough problems as it is on Archer with determining which stats to raise when considering some stats barely do anything at all(hello dex!). Throwing PIE into the mix just hurts my brain even more. I would bet a lot of us, me included, have only base PIE, so 13 or something. Don't think none of us ARC where aware we were suppose to be building up our PIE stat as well lol.

Maybe I have just been brainwashed though in thinking Archer should be str/dex builds and mods. Something is definitely up though if they are putting PIE on almost all the bows now though. Maybe it effects Bloodletter DoT? Maybe our damage mods on weapon skills are dex/pie, like how DRK in XI was str/int?

idk...

[TheVedis]

There is no reason to discuss archers future

we already know what it is

they will put an arrow into the bow, and shoot it

[Alaltus]

NB: this has nothing to do with Archer's nerf, AA or whatever.

I was looking at the new weapons and noticed that almost all of the bows have Piety attributes. It seemed quite odd to me, but then i thought that it might have something to do with the upcoming job system (Archer's job is supposed to be Bard).

But I still think it's an odd decision... Considering what we know so far, jobs are gonna be for parties and are gonna be some kind of "specialization" of each class, so there shouldn't be any reason why you might want your a Conjurer not to be WHM or your Gladiator not to be PLD... but what's the point in turning the most powerful DD class into a support Job? o.O I mean, once it becomes Bard it can't be that powerful (judging from those bows, Bard is gonna be piety based, so in order to be effective in that class you have to take away some points from STR and DEX) so unlike the other jobs, that are gonna enhance what the class is already doing, Bard is gonna be totally different from Archer.
My point is, if when the job system is implemented Archer is gonna be Bard, are we gonna be willing to give up on the DPS and get a support Job? Or will we still want a simple Archer?

Honestly I thought Lancer was fitting much better to become Bard (and now all of the former dragoons are gonna kill me ; ; ) since it's slightly less effective as DD than Archer, but already has some buffing skills for the whole party (Surges and Comrade in Arms). I've got th feeling that it was supposed to be a DD/support class at the beginning, but the idea got scrapped by the new team because... well Lancer has to be Draoon, it can't be helped

Obviously these are all speculations since we still know nothing about the job system, but i'd like to know what you guys think about it.

Archer and bard could work... cant say it will give me any memories of FF though. Dragoon has played the dd/support role before specifically IX and XI albeit in XI players largely ignored the support side in favour of the dd side. Before that either Jump was their only skill or the whole dragoon thing was played down completely because all the characters were a mesh of the same abilities/magic etc. So no i dont think bard would have been a better fit for lancer and i wouldnt be surprised if dragoon is again a dd/support job.