Locked out of the Duty Finder.

[NyarukoW]

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You can't craft anything worthwhile because it might pop at the wrong time that you won't be able to finish HQing, you can't spam Fates on a different class because you may not have the time to get out of fight and switch classes if it's a zone with aggressive mobs, you can't level your Chocobo because you can't have it out while signed up..

You can always run away in 45 seconds and switch class. You just need to start running immediately and not hope to finish the fate. Let it go. You can craft HQ, just that if the queue pop, that is the RNG telling you this one has to be NQ, Just careful synth 2 and finish it quick. And the penalty has nothing to with the chocobo, it has been that way before the penalty.

The game not just about you. There are other players too, that your are taking for granted. And beside it is 3 strikes, you get to gamble with that for the 1st two seeing if you can lucky get the fate or the craft. Only one 3rd strike do you get an all too light penalty of 30 minutes.

[Arcari]

Punishing one person for what another person does or fails to do is wrong, no matter what it's about.

HAHAHA, is that what you think? Please don't ever join the military... or take up any type of leadership/management position anywhere for that matter.

[NyarukoW]

Punishing one person for what another person does or fails to do is wrong, no matter what it's about.

Better not set foot in T7 either. One person failing to point voice away from the party or did put shriek behind the renaud and the whole raid gets stoned and wipes and everyone is punished.

This is an MMO and not a solo game. You need to hold each other accountable. And it is not just people within your raid, there is also a larger community of players out. They are not meant to be taken for granted so you can troll and fish and abuse the DF.

[Kaze3434]

Better not set foot in T7 either. One person failing to point voice away from the party or did put shriek behind the renaud and the whole raid gets stoned and wipes and everyone is punished.

This is an MMO and not a solo game. You need to hold each other accountable. And it is not just people within your raid, there is also a larger community of players out. They are not meant to be taken for granted so you can troll and fish and abuse the DF.

same thing happens with t10. mess up on tether or charge? raid wide aoe and debuff.

[Giantbane]

HAHAHA, is that what you think? Please don't ever join the military... or take up any type of leadership/management position anywhere for that matter.

MMO you pay for should strive to be just like the military. Great example....

Better not set foot in T7 either. One person failing to point voice away from the party or did put shriek behind the renaud and the whole raid gets stoned and wipes and everyone is punished.

This is an MMO and not a solo game. You need to hold each other accountable. And it is not just people within your raid, there is also a larger community of players out. They are not meant to be taken for granted so you can troll and fish and abuse the DF.

yes, but if someone in your group fails to point the voice away from the party 3x you don't get locked out of the instance for 30min.

This is an MMO, but part of that is to socialize and tackle challenges as a group. Entering the queue for the DF is not a challenge. Collective punishment just creates more animosity between players without much benefit. Besides, you don't even know who withdraws from a queue, it's not like there's a message that gets displayed.

[Souljacker]

Hold the trouble makers accountable.

But, this is what I have been saying ALL ALONG. Hold the TROUBLEMAKERS accountable, by making it impossible by design to behave in the undesired way, or by designing the penalty structure in such a way that you ONLY catch the people who are ACTUALLY abusing it (i.e. Strikes accumulate if you withdraw within 5 minutes of the previous withdrawal - only tanks and healers, the ones who are actually doing the exploiting, would be caught in this net). There's no need to incur a penalty strike for needing to run to the rescue of a roommate or wife agro or whatever. Give penalties to people who are ACTUALLY EXPLOITING the system.

Right now it's catching everyone, whether they fish or not, whether they personally withdraw or not (in the case of the partial party penalty), not just the troublemakers you seem to have such loathing for.

[Shogroth]

By queueing with a tank/heals, it pops me to the front of the line. If that person drops and it didn't penalize everyone in that group, what you would/will see is a HUGE influx of Tank/Heals selling auto-queues.

The only possible fix is to automatically put any remaining party members at the back of the queue.

[Souljacker]

By queueing with a tank/heals, it pops me to the front of the line. If that person drops and it didn't penalize everyone in that group, what you would/will see is a HUGE influx of Tank/Heals selling auto-queues.

The only possible fix is to automatically put any remaining party members at the back of the queue.

Again... completely separate issue that I am not even sure exists tbh (or that you are understanding properly - that person drops after entering... doesn't give you a strike. If he withdraws, NONE of you get in...).

Right now there isn't a tank on any server selling a queue into any dungeon of note... Why? We have a queue too. I waited ten for a ST. Coil isn't the kind of content you sell cutsies to.... you sell wins. Not the target SE is aiming for with this change.

So again... not the issue here and never was.

[maxthunder1]

[QUOTE=NyarukoW;2566563] snip

If we refer to your last statement: Than the game needs forced party's/group up for all content. There should be no more solo content, this is a MMO and we all need to play together and what better way to promote a better community than than requireing a group/party for all content, from leveling to fates to dailies. The issue is easy to fix, you want players to be responsible than teach them from the start and make everything require a party no exceptions.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Except that forcing a party for every single piece of content creates an issue we already have; when the majority of the player base has already moved on, where does that leave new players? Who is going to party with a newbie when there's nothing for the veteran player to gain?