Big Fish and You - Patch 2.4 (speculation (or is it? :))

[eremonxi]

With all the other caught, it can't be long until it will be found. While the Helicoprion is down, I'm working on the Shonisaurus in Witchdrop, would appreciate some help theorizing:

What I tried: Caught everything, including up to 3(5) Rhamphorynchus (if repairing without zoning won't interrupt it) in a row and 1 Mahar. (But no buff yet)
My ideas:

-> If its a buff it involves more than 5 Rhamphors or more than 1 Mahar.
-> If its not a buff, it would have to be a rare weather condition + mooch or straight catch.
-> Given the description about the lighter-than-air gas, matching the description on Balloon Bugs, i like to believe it would make sense for the Shonisaurus to feed on the Balloon Bugs, rather than Hoverworm, OR the other possible option, Saucerfish.

So what I want to have a go at next is checking rare conditions and make suffiencient attempts to catch with streight balloon bugs. - knowing that its still possibly a mooch off CloudCutter or Saucerfish.

If it was in Analogy to the Helicopryon:
Rarest condition->Zonespecific Condition->shared mooch with other big fish in area
then i would expect it to be:
Clear weather(4.7%) -> Blizzard (19.4%) -> Saucerfish Mooch

Baloon Bug description makes me wonder tho

What do you think is most likely the case here?

[EspeonCortez]

i was doing the same thing and i thought the exact same way to i think its balloon bug as well but i cant figure out this damn fish and its driving me crazy but i will keep trying to figure it out

[Shantara]

With all the other caught, it can't be long until it will be found. While the Helicoprion is down, I'm working on the Shonisaurus in Witchdrop, would appreciate some help theorizing

I've caught an HQ Rhamphorynchus after the patch, and it wasn't moochable. Just saying to strike out this option.

[ServerCollaps]

is someone able to translante this?

[Overcast] Overcast→ [Heat Wave] Heat Wave Gathering409 図鑑に [Fog] Fogが [Fair] Fairると活発に狩りを行うという記述あり（ [Fog] Fog→ [Heat Wave] Heat Waveも行けるかもしれない)

[Illyriafox]

I have a theory about Helicoprion.

If you look at what Uknow said about getting an 'insufficient gathering' message during triple heatwave and that he had caught 2 Magic Carpets beforehand, I think the Helicoprion conditions are less to do with weather changes and more to do with catching it during Heatwave at a specific time.

Everyone can confirm it's heatwave so we can take that as pretty much a given. However, Magic Carpet catch time is 09:00-17:00 and the catch times for Helicoprion are listed as 13:00-19:00 which would coincide with a Magic Carpet catch window meaning that Uknow's lost catch was probably in the 16:00-00:00 weather window. In addition we know Tiger hasn't had any luck on 10+ mooches during Inclement weather -> Heatwave (although we don't know what time period this was) so it just makes sense to assume the catch conditions are Heatwave and somewhere between 13:00-19:00. I'll try during this window when it's up and let you know if I have any luck.

[ServerCollaps]

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ya, but if its something trivial like just weather + time many other people should have already caught them, but there arent any updates for days

[Illyriafox]

ya, but if its something trivial like just weather + time many other people should have already caught them, but there arent any updates for days

This is a good point but the same can be said for why there have been no updates if it's fog/overcast->heat or if it's triple heat, as both have been up in the last few days (and fog/overcast -> heat is not that rare it seems, I've seen it 3+ times since the last update before yours on angler.com). I'm not saying this is an exact science, it's just a theory and to me it makes the most sense based on the information we have At this point there's not really anything to lose by seeing if it's right.