Thanks for the specifics, Yonko. I have 636, and I know that I could have got a few more GP, but decided to go with more perception, and I'm in all pre 2.4 gear still. I didn't think the person was up and up. If I was to give them the benefit of the doubt, I would say that their eyesight was bad and was seeing a 6 as an 8. Who knows?