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    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    You disrespected the whole Dev Team...

    But other then that, if you don't want to be called a QQer, then use your common sense. A 5 year old mentally retarded child could realize that right NOW Seals are limited, but at some point you will be able to get seals on a regular basis by repeatable missions/tasks or whatever, otherwise there would be no point of implementing all those items.

    But common sense is prolly not one of your strenghts, right?

    That was what Mystery pointed out, RIGHT NOW they are limited and you can't have EVERYTHING right now, but they will implement something that lets you gather seals, or else the whole idea of them would be flawed and an idiot could tell that's not gonna be the case.
    So instead of ranting like a little child, use your brain!
    I disrespected the whole team? Are you serious? I simply said that, in my opinion, they are not doing a good job in this months. Where can you see disrespect in this? It's a critical opinion about their way to work, not disrespect. Do you even know the meaning of the word "disrespect"?
    I'm a paying customer, I have all the rights to judge their work! I respect all the team humanly, but professionally, FOR ME, they are not doing a good job. Very simple, even a stupid can understand that.

    P.s. I never said that I want "everything know", are you able to read properly? I simply said that ONE TIME is ridiculous. I would have liked a timer, even a weekly timer, that's all. Why, for my opinion, I have to hear useless answers like yours? Read better before answering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oibaf View Post
    I disrespected the whole team? Are you serious? I simply said that, in my opinion, they are not doing a good job in this months. Where can you see disrespect in this? It's a critical opinion about their way to work, not disrespect. Do you even know the meaning of the word "disrespect"?
    I'm a paying customer, I have all the rights to judge their work! I respect all the team humanly, but professionally, FOR ME, they are not doing a good job. Very simple, even a stupid can understand that.

    P.s. I never said that I want "everything know", are you able to read properly? I simply said that ONE TIME is ridiculous. I would have liked a timer, even a weekly timer, that's all. Why, for my opinion, I have to hear useless answers like yours? Read better before answering.
    Multiple people responded saying you can do the quests for each dungeon THREE times - one for each city. That makes for 5k+ seals per company. This means being able to get at least 3 r50 weapons and 3 pieces of gear or so based on their prices.

    My question is, have you been reading the responses?

    Also, when you're going to criticize SE for their development decisions, then you've got to do more than just say "I don't like this" for it to be considered criticism. When people read the forums and see posts with players saying things like "omg I don't like this its broken SE made a bad decision herp derp derp" then they get annoyed because such posts have nothing constructive to them.

    However, if you were to explain what you do not like about their decisions, and how you think they could have done it better than people would respond respctfully.

    Respect is earned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Multiple people responded saying you can do the quests for each dungeon THREE times - one for each city. That makes for 5k+ seals per company. This means being able to get at least 3 r50 weapons and 3 pieces of gear or so based on their prices.

    My question is, have you been reading the responses?

    Also, when you're going to criticize SE for their development decisions, then you've got to do more than just say "I don't like this" for it to be considered criticism. When people read the forums and see posts with players saying things like "omg I don't like this its broken SE made a bad decision herp derp derp" then they get annoyed because such posts have nothing constructive to them.

    However, if you were to explain what you do not like about their decisions, and how you think they could have done it better than people would respond respctfully.

    Respect is earned.

    Ok maybe he have not posted a "solution" But he wasn't disrespectful, really.... he have only said that he don't agree with Yoshida's Development team for the decision that they have taken and he is beginning to think that this game will end with being a game that doesn't fit with his ideal of MMORPG and he will eventually drop the game.... and i think that the most part of the active players that comes from FFXI will agree with THAT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiba View Post
    Ok maybe he have not posted a "solution" But he wasn't disrespectful, really.... he have only said that he don't agree with Yoshida's Development team for the decision that they have taken and he is beginning to think that this game will end with being a game that doesn't fit with his ideal of MMORPG and he will eventually drop the game.... and i think that the most part of the active players that comes from FFXI will agree with THAT.
    Idk about anyone else in this thread, but I was not calling Oibaf disrespectful. My comment is more about him demanding respect.

    Especially right now when the forums are plagued by people whining about anything/everything, a lot of players are easily losing their patience in dealing with posts that just involve a rant/complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Idk about anyone else in this thread, but I was not calling Oibaf disrespectful. My comment is more about him demanding respect.

    Especially right now when the forums are plagued by people whining about anything/everything, a lot of players are easily losing their patience in dealing with posts that just involve a rant/complaint.
    Yeah i have to agree with you that now anyone is whining about anything/everything, and i think that apocalictic visions will not solve the problems... This way we will not come to anything... BUT i have to say also that the DV Team have to recognize that there are some problems in the MAIN thinking of this game and they have to talk clearly...
    IF they wants a new FFXI they have to say it PREVIOUSLY, and the way they are doing the changes are ok.
    BUT if they say that they want to do a "Complete new game that has nothing to fo with FFXI" (Yoshida's words...) there is something wrong in their decisions, and the first alarm, the first thing that ring an advising bell, is the realy ENORMOUS number of players Complaining for the last changes... don't u think so?
    I HOPE that the winings will stop because something will change in a BETTER way...
    (i know myself that there will be whinings forever and for anything the DV Team do, but now are really far too much to be considered wrong...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Multiple people responded saying you can do the quests for each dungeon THREE times - one for each city. That makes for 5k+ seals per company. This means being able to get at least 3 r50 weapons and 3 pieces of gear or so based on their prices.

    My question is, have you been reading the responses?

    Also, when you're going to criticize SE for their development decisions, then you've got to do more than just say "I don't like this" for it to be considered criticism. When people read the forums and see posts with players saying things like "omg I don't like this its broken SE made a bad decision herp derp derp" then they get annoyed because such posts have nothing constructive to them.

    However, if you were to explain what you do not like about their decisions, and how you think they could have done it better than people would respond respctfully.

    Respect is earned.
    Yes noctis I read the responses, do you read my responses? I don't like the fact that you can't do them again after the first time. I cannot write everytime the same things, go back and read better.
    I said very precisly that my criticism was about this specific problem in this thread.

    And I disagree with you, human respect is all I'm asking talking in this forum, and human respect is not earned, but it's due to every person.

    You earned nothing from me, but still I respect you and your opinion, even if they are different.
    Maybe you're talking about personal respect that is quite another thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oibaf View Post
    Yes noctis I read the responses, do you read my responses? I don't like the fact that you can't do them again after the first time. I cannot write everytime the same things, go back and read better.
    I said very precisly that my criticism was about this specific problem in this thread.

    And I disagree with you, human respect is all I'm asking talking in this forum, and human respect is not earned, but it's due to every person.

    You earned nothing from me, but still I respect you and your opinion, even if they are different.
    Maybe you're talking about personal respect that is quite another thing.
    I don't believe anyone insulted your humanity Oibaf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I don't believe anyone insulted your humanity Oibaf.
    In fact you don't Noctis. You're like the first today that disagree with me, and is still capable to explain its reasons civilly.
    One player called me a proud hypocrite, another said that I "rant like a child", another one that I am desrespectful, an all this just cause I have a different opinion.
    Don't you call these thing insults? Cause I don't see a lot of respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oibaf View Post
    In fact you don't Noctis. You're like the first today that disagree with me, and is still capable to explain its reasons civilly.
    One player called me a proud hypocrite, another said that I "rant like a child", another one that I am desrespectful, an all this just cause I have a different opinion.
    Don't you call these thing insults? Cause I don't see a lot of respect.
    Perhaps I am simply saying not to take it so personally. Your post that led to those responses sounded much like a simple rant, which essentially ticked off all the readers that are quite frankly sick of seeing it.

    It's important to stay constructive. I don't believe you are a hypocrite or particularly childish, but I do feel that when not careful our posts can have us appear that way.

    A bit of constructive criticism goes a long way to separate one from being a random whining player.

    I try not to fall for that trap by simply posting mainly when I have something constructive to say, and otherwise simply Liking posts by fellow players whose words I agree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Perhaps I am simply saying not to take it so personally. Your post that led to those responses sounded much like a simple rant, which essentially ticked off all the readers that are quite frankly sick of seeing it.

    It's important to stay constructive. I don't believe you are a hypocrite or particularly childish, but I do feel that when not careful our posts can have us appear that way.

    A bit of constructive criticism goes a long way to separate one from being a random whining player.

    I try not to fall for that trap by simply posting mainly when I have something constructive to say, and otherwise simply Liking posts by fellow players whose words I agree with.
    Sure I agree, but in fact I wanted to stay constructive when I started this thread. Unfortunately you've been the only one. That's sad because I learned that there are too many people here uncapable of doing a civil and quiet discussion. So I think I'll never post again but, even if it's been just for a short time, it's been a pleasure to exchange some opinion with you.
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