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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    To be fair PArcher, it was easier to get myth before than it is to solidery is now. It may be 1/3 of the cost but it's not a 1/3 of the work.
    It is easier to get 500 soldiery after 2.4 than it was with 1500 myth after 2.2

    The amount of soldiery reward will get an increase with 2.5, like it was with myth during 2.3

    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    30 Bray took 5m45 (2-boss) => 2.875 h
    20 full ~11m => 3.67h

    10 new dungeon ~22m => 3.67h

    Slower than bray burn runs.
    I'm happy that 2.2 Brayflox HM is an exception, and not the norm of future dungeon rewards
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-04-2014 at 04:59 AM.

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    If you run Expert/High/Low/Trials/Main Story once a day thats 300+ Sol right there Story can give upwards of 200 thanks to new player bonus.

    500 is good the way it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinun View Post
    If you run Expert/High/Low/Trials/Main Story once a day thats 300+ Sol right there Story can give upwards of 200 thanks to new player bonus.

    500 is good the way it is
    Seems people are missing this... 3-4 days for 2.3 myth tomes from roulettes, now 1-2 days....
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    Myth converted at a rate of 1:4 to soldiery yet the Animus books were downpriced at a rate of 1:3.

    Essentially, yes, they became more expensive, not less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It is easier to get 500 soldiery after 2.4 than it was with 1500 myth after 2.2

    The amount of soldiery reward will get an increase with 2.5, like it was with myth during 2.3
    No one here is comparing it to 2.2, and no one cares about a 2.2 comparison that's already considerably out of date.. It's being compared with 2.3 since that's the rate we had up until a week ago and the current rate is indeed worse than 2.3 was. From a week ago pre patch to today post patch it got tougher to farm these. Even if only a little bit. That's the only detail that's relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    No one here is comparing it to 2.2, and no one cares about a 2.2 comparison that's already considerably out of date.. It's being compared with 2.3 since that's the rate we had up until a week ago and the current rate is indeed worse than 2.3 was. From a week ago pre patch to today post patch it got tougher to farm these. Even if only a little bit. That's the only detail that's relevant.
    During 2.1 the myth reward was higher than during 2.2
    During 2.3 the soldiery reward was higher than during 2.4

    Why not comparing them if there is a pattern?

    Patch wih even number (2.0, 2.2, 2.4) = low tome reward
    Patch with odd number (2.1, 2.3, and highly 2.5) = high tome reward

    Lowering the tome prices for the books further would mean to give them away for free in 2.5
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-04-2014 at 05:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    During 2.3 the myth reward was higher than during 2.2
    During 2.5 the soldiery reward will be higher than during 2.4
    Fixed~

    I think you meant to say During 2.1 the philo reward was higher than during 2.0 as the first statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    No one here is comparing it to 2.2, and no one cares about a 2.2 comparison that's already considerably out of date.. It's being compared with 2.3 since that's the rate we had up until a week ago and the current rate is indeed worse than 2.3 was. From a week ago pre patch to today post patch it got tougher to farm these. Even if only a little bit. That's the only detail that's relevant.
    Far from irrelevant, Tiggy, history shows that they make currency easier to get over the time, it's pointless to lower the cost of books when we will earn more soldiery in future patches.
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    Last edited by Alukah; 11-04-2014 at 05:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    During 2.1 the myth reward was higher than during 2.2
    During 2.3 the soldiery reward was higher than during 2.4

    Why not comparing them if there is a pattern?

    Patch wih even number (2.0, 2.2, 2.4) = low tome reward
    Patch with odd number (2.1, 2.3, and highly 2.5) = high tome reward

    Lowering the tome prices for the books further would mean to give them away for free in 2.5
    Pattern or not doesn't automatically make it a smart balance. Posting that history changes nothing when the argument is that the balance is bad to begin with. The history also fails to address the OPs concerns and uses that history as some sort of blind justification.

    Square has changed the way they've done things several times over the course of the patches because the existing method didn't work very well or the balance was found to be lacking. This is quite possibly one of those times. That's the point that's trying to be made here.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 11-04-2014 at 05:21 AM.