3* trade in for Master II books rotation...

[HammerTimePhill]

I'm currently sitting on 392 craft 382 control and 397 cp with food, with FC buffs it's 402 craft 392 control. My rotation is just like everyone else's at the moment (heavy luck) I start with CZ, ToT, IQ, ToT, SH2, Waste Not 2, PBP, PBP, Rapid, Rapid, SH2, Rapid. That start gets me to around 781 progress then I follow with hasty touch and getting them ToTs in whenever I can so I can get another round of Hasty, CZ, MM,and SH in and hopefully get a good/excellent after Great Strides. My main goal is to work on stacks and a good/excellent finish for BB, if I get lucky on ToTs I'll slip an Inovation after Great Strides and cross my fingers I get a good/excellent.
Currently I've not tried it much, only 6 times but I got 2 HQ Calibrated Rose Gold Cogs, one on 58% quality and the other 52%. One more to go and that was also without the Supra tool. As far as price for 4star on my server you're looking at 2 to 8 mil, crazy stuff, it's easier to make millions on mastercraft if you have the time.

[Katchoo]

Man these crafts are some bull****. I had a run with only one ToT proc but EVERY Hast Touch hit, even the one without SH2, all the PbP hit w/o SH1 and BOTH the Rapid Synth hit. 10 stacks and yet ... only 20%. Fuck you SE.

[TheoVi]

448cr /412con /395cp stats

I did this way (used ToT every time I could).
CZ > IQ > PbP 3x > (Rotate Hasty touch (even without SHII to save CP) + M'sMII + CZ) until 10+ stacks with excellent condition > B'sB > IngII > CSII 3x
80-85% hq if I was lucky to realize it, but thats really random based

[FJerome]

Has anyone ever worked out how often Excellent pops? I've been wondering, given the 10% chance of a failure on Reclaim, if an Excellent really worth fishing for or if mathematically it works out cheaper if you just take that 10-20% chance at an HQ without it instead, especially if you're making your turn-ins for a class you've leveled desynth for.

[TheoVi]

It worth fishing for Excellent, don't have exact numbers, but it pops in proper time like 1 of 5 good tries

[Minicake]

Heya, for my little experience : LTW ( *stats: 396 craftmanship / 380 control / 325 SP + FC buff + SP buff HQ with ilvl 70 green tool+ glasses head) it took me like 40 and more FC3 to have the 3 HQ items needed for the book II (max hq was 16% on thoose hihi). When i got the book i realize that i was unable to do any of the recipes because it recquires : 451 craftmanship + 407 control and all recipes are ilvl 110.

I saw the same for my mate who is weaver (and not finish the 3* hq with more than again 40 FC3). In fact apart if your are GSM / BSM or carpenter, you can do nothing with thoose stats* actually.

I can't understand why some jobs have ilvl 90 recipes (easier) and some others jobs have only ilvl 110 recipes (hard). Again, why certains jobs have just like 4-5 recipes, others got 22...(ltw) for the same hard work getting your 3 hq-luck items.
Finally i wonder why the ilvl 60 new crafter stuff is ilvl 110 4 stars to craft, while off hands are ilvl 70 and requiered only 3 stars craft...

I can't see any logic about all of this, I forgot the fact that off hand don't recquiered any mastercraft demi and the hands/shoes/pants need one each hihi!

Well it was just to say that if you would try to craft things with more difficulty and less stuff or not fully melded because of economic reasons, it's not easy at all as LTW/Weaver in this patch 2.4.

[vividiof]

I saw this rotation floating around but I've yet to try it, and I saw no base stats for it but I hope it helps, I'll try messing with it at some point. Good luck
★ = ToT

/ac Comfort zone <wait.2>　★
/ac Inner quiet <wait.2>　★
/ac Piece by piece <wait.3>　★
/ac Piece by piece <wait.3>　★
/ac IG2 <wait.2>　☆　↑ToT only if you haven't gotten any yet
/ac SH2 <wait.2>
/ac Rapid <wait.3>
/ac Rapid <wait.3>　←　If you fail this, reclaim and try again
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>　★
/ac Master's mend 2 <wait.3>　★
/ac Comfort zone <wait.2>　★　←　if you don't have 2 ToTs by now, you won't have enough CP
/ac SH2 <wait.2>
/ac Waste not 2<wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac SH2 <wait.2>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>
/ac Hasty <wait.3>　★　←　If more than 2 HTs blow up, reclaim. If ToT, SH
/ac greate stride <wait.2>　
/ac byregot <wait.3>
/ac perfect synth 2

base: 440craft /400control /352cp
food: HQ shark fin soup 3★ +62 craft +18cp
all : 492craft /400control /369cp

Comfort zone
Inner quiet
Piece by piece
Piece by piece
Steady Hand2
Rapid
Rapid
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Master's mend 2
Comfort zone
Steady Hand2
Waste not 2
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Steady Hand2
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Hasty Touch
Greate Stride
Byregot's Blessing
CS2

409CP you need get 2 ToT ..............

[Yonko]

Heya, for my little experience : LTW ( *stats: 396 craftmanship / 380 control / 325 SP + FC buff + SP buff HQ with ilvl 70 green tool+ glasses head) it took me like 40 and more FC3 to have the 3 HQ items needed for the book II (max hq was 16% on thoose hihi). When i got the book i realize that i was unable to do any of the recipes because it recquires : 451 craftmanship + 407 control and all recipes are ilvl 110.

I saw the same for my mate who is weaver (and not finish the 3* hq with more than again 40 FC3). In fact apart if your are GSM / BSM or carpenter, you can do nothing with thoose stats* actually.

I can't understand why some jobs have ilvl 90 recipes (easier) and some others jobs have only ilvl 110 recipes (hard). Again, why certains jobs have just like 4-5 recipes, others got 22...(ltw) for the same hard work getting your 3 hq-luck items.
Finally i wonder why the ilvl 60 new crafter stuff is ilvl 110 4 stars to craft, while off hands are ilvl 70 and requiered only 3 stars craft...

I can't see any logic about all of this, I forgot the fact that off hand don't recquiered any mastercraft demi and the hands/shoes/pants need one each hihi!

Well it was just to say that if you would try to craft things with more difficulty and less stuff or not fully melded because of economic reasons, it's not easy at all as LTW/Weaver in this patch 2.4.

for the number of recipes most likely we will get more later one added to the books. For instance there is no crafted i110 accessories so those will most likely be added to books in a later patch.

As for the ilvl of crafted gear correlating to the recipe level .... Reasons.

[chidarake]

I understand the importance of being server first to potentially sell stuff to get your gil back but considering you cant craft 4* without a max melded artisans off-hand why aren't you all doing those first.??

personally I just got my last tools last night and now im fully set to tackle these books with near currently max possible stats. I also have 90 field 3's due to the fact I levelled ltw desynth and captalized on all the other people trying to rush these books.

yeah it cost me millions of gil to get my tools just like you all but my current gil balance didn't change to do it by much... and now I can continue to sell field 3's and rake in the gil while everyone is vying for a 4* market with very few people able to buy the goods produced.

as for the rotation on these books I plan to go with a modified version of my 3* rotation.. and of course rely on blind luck.

[scarebearz]

A expect many many 4 star crafters who are only just getting their gear/books will not get there gil back, certainly not anytime soon.