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    -DMR-'s Avatar
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    Zertraya Rouge
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    Ninja Lv 90

    First time healer role

    I've done plenty of dungeons so far as ACN/SMN (DPS role). I thought I'd try another DPS role or healer role (CNJ). I ended up with the latter.

    So I like to know if theres anything apart from the Medica spell I can put to good use in dungeons in future? I felt I overused it every time the party was in a fight. Isn't the 'Psychic' spell mean't for the same purpose (as used by DPS character).
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Nesshin'na Kasai
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 90
    The spells are different for Conjurer and Scholar but your basics will be a low-level heal, a better heal, and an aoe heal. That's a simplified presentation.

    For conjurer - cure is your basic spell and medica is your aoe. You shouldn't be using medica unless multiple people are taking damage.
    Later you will get cure 2 (bigger single target heal), regen (single target heal over time), medica 2 (aoe heal with regen), and cure 3 (ranged aoe heal).
    In general you want to use the lowest spell that will handle things.

    For scholar - physick is your basic spell and succor is your aoe .. but it works a bit different than medica. Succor does a basic heal and adds a damage shield. Adloquium is the bigger heal and it also adds a damage shield.
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by -DMR- View Post
    I've done plenty of dungeons so far as ACN/SMN (DPS role). I thought I'd try another DPS role or healer role (CNJ). I ended up with the latter.

    So I like to know if theres anything apart from the Medica spell I can put to good use in dungeons in future? I felt I overused it every time the party was in a fight. Isn't the 'Psychic' spell mean't for the same purpose (as used by DPS character).
    Just want to point out, just because a DPS can equip physick doesn't mean they should be casting it. As a conjurer, your MND stat is much higher than a DPS. In addition, a DoW is not going to have a very high magic damage on their weapon (It's a hidden value on physical weapons, and magic weapons have a hidden physical damage stat), so theirs will be even worse.

    In general, as CNJ you will be using Cure. It is your bread and butter. Use Cure II once obtained for when people are taking heavy damage, and use medica only if the party is taking continuous damage.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Just a little rule of thumb to help you out: Medica is more efficient if at least 3 people need healing, otherwise stick to Cure. Keep in mind that Medica will also generate more hate so that is something to be careful with too, especially in lower level dungeons.

    Another thing to note is that in most cases, you shouldn't fret about keeping everyone 100% topped off. If someone is at 90% HP or so their natural HP regen should be enough to finish the job and it's less MP you are using up.
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    -DMR-'s Avatar
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    Zertraya Rouge
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    Ok, do I need to target a party member for the Cure spell?
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Quote Originally Posted by -DMR- View Post
    Ok, do I need to target a party member for the Cure spell?
    Yes. Generally you should always be targeting the tank. Also as you seem to have arcanist to 34 go unlock scholar once you hit 15 with your conjurer and you should see the difference in how they perform their healing.

    But yes conjurer/white mage healing is in essence cure - if you get a cure II proc use that for a bit of a bigger hit in that time(proc takes no MP) - use medica for aoe heals over a large area, medica II for aoe heals with regen(i.e. you are making a late cast when you know inevitable damage is coming up or you need to be moving a lot) - regen on tanks just after they established enmity - regen on dps if they hit like 70-80% of their hp and no real damage is coming up.
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by -DMR- View Post
    Ok, do I need to target a party member for the Cure spell?
    Short answer: yes. If you don't have anything targeted or you have a monster targeted it will cast on you instead.

    Long answer: are you on a playstation or pc? If you are on a playstation use the up/down arrows to scroll through the party list. That is a very quick way to target party members. If you are on a pc, click on the person OR their name in the party list. It is possible for people to be out of range or around a corner, so watch for those messages. If you try to select someone and their name isn't being selected it means they are too far away.
    As acn/smn you are used to seeing the pet on the party list. Other people don't see your pet on their lists, so as healer you will have trouble targeting them that way. If you want to target a pet you can still click on it to manually target.
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    Zertraya Rouge
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I've obtained the SCH job crystal, as well as the 2 faeries, I just need to put it to good use now, as well as the SMN job, which was obtained earlier on.
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 60
    Be sure to note your aggro management and MP when using skills like Medica too, you don't want to steal aggro from the tank or blow through your MP at a critical moment
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    Mighty Miggles
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    SCH has a much easier time managing enmity than WHM because fairy has its own enmity table so SCH should rarely aggro. It does happen though when you Succor too early and try to top evertone off and end up drawing stray aggro.
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